Jump to content


TO TUB OR NOT TO TUB 

that is the question
51 replies to this topic

#31 beamboy

  • Joined:28-June 08
  • Location:Australia NSW
  • Car:S13 Silvia

Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:49 AM

View Postcazman, on 05 December 2011 - 09:36 AM, said:

View Postbeamboy, on 05 December 2011 - 08:02 AM, said:

Posted Image

don't worry I'm not singling you out beam.

If we all look at the OEM box section above the outer edge of the tyre you'll see that almost all tubs add absolutley no additional clearance for more suspension travel.
The second thing to note is we all use Camber at the wheels ahead position.
The tub must be angled upwards to match the angle the strut top is on if you are to actually get an improvement over stock.

It's also very easy to see where the tubs DoNt need to be in this shot.
Everywhere inboard,fore aft and above the coilspring can stay factory sheet metal.

All it does is eat up engine bayspace and bring your car one step closer to looking like a Torana's boot.
P.S- :thumbsup: LOL HARD at the Torana Boot Comment ! I am looking a bit Summer Nats - When Bogan's Attack with the Supercharger poking out of the bonnet.

Edited by beamboy, 05 December 2011 - 09:56 AM.


#32 adam

  • Joined:10-June 03
  • Location:Australia NSW
  • Car:S - fideen

Posted 05 December 2011 - 04:12 PM

View Postmik fader, on 27 November 2011 - 09:25 AM, said:

View Postadam, on 26 November 2011 - 02:21 PM, said:

You can buy the tubs for an S14 / 180. They are made by a bloke from SA named Kelway. I've seen the fitup on a build thread at another site and they fit great.

He has a thread in this same fabrication section.



.
What is the name of his thread, I cant find any threads on tubbing

just search "Kelway" - I don't think he mentions tubs specifically but he will make anything. Also with his design you don't cut the whole front off like the pics in this thread.

see if this link works

http://www.nissansil...l=&fromsearch=1


.




.

Edited by adam, 05 December 2011 - 04:15 PM.


#33 mik fader

  • Joined:26-June 08
  • Car:s13 nissan silvia

Posted 09 December 2011 - 03:48 PM

thanks heaps for all the responses guys it has helped me heaps. I think I am going to give the tubs a miss, just seems like alot of work for not much gain. I am so impressed with some of the engine bay photos, keep up the good work everybody.

#34 xris

  • Joined:05-November 02
  • Location:Australia VIC

Posted 22 December 2011 - 07:09 AM

View Postblingcommander, on 26 November 2011 - 09:34 PM, said:

View PostRifleman, on 26 November 2011 - 06:59 PM, said:

View Postblingcommander, on 26 November 2011 - 06:08 PM, said:

or just less caster at the caster rod and more at the camber top
How do you get more caster at the camber top? I have some scrubbing ATM I want to get rid of!

Turn the camber tops 45 degrees


As below :puke:
Posted Image

#35 blingcommander

  • Joined:05-October 06
  • Location:Japan
  • Car:Scooty-Puff Jr.

Posted 22 December 2011 - 07:26 AM

huh? :lol: FDs don't have camber tops.

#36 xris

  • Joined:05-November 02
  • Location:Australia VIC

Posted 22 December 2011 - 08:30 AM

View Postblingcommander, on 22 December 2011 - 07:26 AM, said:

huh? :lol: FDs don't have camber tops.

i wish this one didnt also......

this has s13 coilovers(turned 45 degrees to adjust castor/camber), s14 lca's, s15 knuckles

rear s14 cradle, r33 hubs, s14 rear shocks with coilover spring and fd tops

he also "moved the 13b engine forward so that the weight distribution was better suited to drift"

:(

#37 skd-570

  • Joined:12-September 09
  • Location:Australia SA
  • Car:sr20det onevia

Posted 22 December 2011 - 12:20 PM

haha wtf.. that thing looks disgusting.

correct me if i am wrong, there is nothing overly wrong with the fd suspension set up? why would he go to all that effort and work to change to silvia gear? :huh:

#38 blingcommander

  • Joined:05-October 06
  • Location:Japan
  • Car:Scooty-Puff Jr.

Posted 22 December 2011 - 01:02 PM

Oh Wow! He has taken about 3 steps in the wrong direction

#39 xris

  • Joined:05-November 02
  • Location:Australia VIC

Posted 22 December 2011 - 02:04 PM

View Postblingcommander, on 22 December 2011 - 01:02 PM, said:

Oh Wow! He has taken about 3 steps in the wrong direction
bad. tried to tell me he did these mods to make it better handling/easier to drift.

looks terrible.

#40 kriss

  • Joined:25-August 08
  • Location:Australia VIC
  • Car:A31 - R31 - R33

Posted 22 December 2011 - 02:09 PM

mass ammounts of tyre contact on that drivers side front wheel

#41 Joobie

  • Joined:18-January 08
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:RPS13 Type X

Posted 02 January 2012 - 07:49 AM

Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't the fd subframe have better squat geometry than an s15 cradle? And isn't the s14 one (he is using) the worst of the s chassis?

Anyone got build links for flaming? :Angel:

#42 dirty_rb30

  • Joined:25-March 05
  • Location:Australia NSW
  • Car:180sx show car

Posted 02 January 2012 - 08:06 AM

Tubs and massive LCAs saved my life. Big caster, big lock, tucking tyre and no scrub. After ages of banging, rubbing and hitting everything down there it feels like cheating it's that good...

Fuse boxes and all that are easy to work out once you have the metal in there.

Personally If you are building up a track only car from a shell for drift I don't see why you wouldn't. Don't forget to hammer the hell out of the rear part of the arch / firewall as well too tho cos even with 7 deg of caster and a 9J -2 on a 35mm longer LCA I still had to clearance the firewall side of the arch with a hammer.



PS I don't know much about FD suspension vs Silvia when it comes to tuning but having owned both the FD drifted like shit...

Edited by dirty_rb30, 02 January 2012 - 08:07 AM.


#43 antonio

  • Joined:26-September 05
  • Location:Australia VIC
  • Car:S14

Posted 04 January 2012 - 04:31 PM

He broke a coilover in the earlier sessions which meant he had to put in another coilover that had no camber adjustment.

No need to hate on something based on a photo from a practice day on the cars 1st ever outing..

#44 mik fader

  • Joined:26-June 08
  • Car:s13 nissan silvia

Posted 13 February 2012 - 08:04 PM

Where do you guys relocate your radiator over flow bottle and fusebox?

#45 mik fader

  • Joined:26-June 08
  • Car:s13 nissan silvia

Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:06 PM

does anyone have photos of step by step how to do these tubs with trailer guards. That is the way ive decided to do it

#46 blingcommander

  • Joined:05-October 06
  • Location:Japan
  • Car:Scooty-Puff Jr.

Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:09 PM

step one: cut out arch
step two: fill hole created in step one with steel

#47 mik fader

  • Joined:26-June 08
  • Car:s13 nissan silvia

Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:11 PM

thanks those photos were really helpful

#48 R32GTRS

  • Joined:24-August 09
  • Location:Australia SA
  • Car:RB25 R32gtst

Posted 25 March 2012 - 08:13 PM

photos? go through some build threads man dont be lazy heaps of people running tubs now and some pretty nice ones on this site. use your head though cut metal out make templates and put metal back

#49 beamboy

  • Joined:28-June 08
  • Location:Australia NSW
  • Car:S13 Silvia

Posted 25 March 2012 - 08:37 PM

View Postmik fader, on 24 March 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

does anyone have photos of step by step how to do these tubs with trailer guards. That is the way ive decided to do it
http://www.nissansil...c=443939&st=180

Check out my build thread with some tub pics. hope it helps

#50 mik fader

  • Joined:26-June 08
  • Car:s13 nissan silvia

Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:28 PM

thanks heaps that helped alot have looked at your build thread before.
would still like to see how people are doing it with trailer guards.

#51 bradsm87

  • Joined:18-May 05
  • Location:Australia TAS
  • Car:2002 S15 Spec S GT

Posted 29 March 2012 - 07:07 PM

I really don't see the point. Why not just run 8.5 or 9 +25 fronts and run LCA's as long as U want to get the width u want. Tub clearance will never be an issue. Job done.



#52 mop

  • Joined:25-April 06
  • Location:Australia ACT
  • Car:s15

Posted 31 March 2012 - 06:29 AM

9+25 doesn't look as good as a 9-2 if u run a wheel with dish or a wheel with deep concave that is why.

Be good if u could tub the whole front and rear as wheel.





1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users




dfp


Common Links

  • About Us
  • Privacy Policy
  • User Agreement
  • Help & Support Forums
  • Advertise
  •  

    By your continued use of this site, you agree to follow all Rules & Guidelines and abide by the User Agreement outlined in our Terms & Conditions.

    Hardtuned Network is hosted by Sanity Technology

    Design, Site Management & Hotness provided by Loz.

    Big thanks to all our members and volunteers for making this network what it is today!