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**Young Drivers - New Laws + Mods & Fines** 

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#1 51CAZ

  • Joined:04-July 04
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:180sx - FD3S S8

Posted 19 July 2007 - 01:19 PM

Ok seeing every day there seems to be posts about, oh no do I have to have P plates on my car? or How do I make my non turbo faster without breaking the rules etc etc...I have found these links that directly give the necessary information to you all.

Please read this before posting such things

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*******************NOTE MOST OF THESE DOCUMENTS REVISED AND RE-ISSUED JULY 2008**********************

Young Drivers Main Intro Page - LINK UPDATED AUG 08

New Licencing Laws Booklet DIRECT DOWNLOAD - LINK UPDATED AUG 08

LEARNER DRIVER BOOKLET DIRECT DOWNLOAD - LINK UPDATED AUG 08

Provisional P1 Driver BOOKLET DIRECT DOWNLOAD - LINK UPDATED AUG 08

Provisional P2 Driver BOOKLET DIRECT DOWNLOAD - LINK UPDATED AUG 08

Learner Licence Changes Fact Sheet DIRECT DOWNLOAD - LINK UPDATED AUG 08

Provisional Plate Fact Sheet DIRECT DOWNLOAD - LINK UPDATED AUG 08

Hazard Perception Test Fact Sheet DIRECT DOWNLOAD - LINK UPDATED AUG 08 **NEW DOCUMENT**

Young Drivers Penaltys & Fines DIRECT DOWNLOAD - LINK UPDATED AUG 08 **NEW DOCUMENT**

Legal Display of L plates includes Download to print your own - LINK UPDATED AUG 08

Legal Display of P Plates includes Downloads to Print your own - LINK UPDATED AUG 08

New Logbook Template for driving HOURS INCL Example of logbook details - LINK UPDATED AUG 08


Some other FAQ's

High powered and performance vehicle restriction
What type of vehicles will be restricted?

Provisional P1 and P2 licence holders are restricted
from driving the following types of vehicles:
* vehicles with eight or more cylinders
* turbocharged vehicles (except diesel)
* supercharged vehicles (except diesel)
* vehicles with an engine output of more than 200kw
* vehicles with a rotary engine above 1146cc

The following vehicles are exempt and can be driven:

* Suzuki Cappuccino 2D Cabriolet Turbo 3 657-698cc (1992 - 1997)
* Daihatsu Copen L880 2D Convertible Turbo 4 659cc (2003 or later)
* Smart fortwo coupe 2D Turbo 3 698cc (2000 or later)
* Smart fortwo Cabriolet Turbo 3 2D 698cc (2000 or later)
* Smart Roadster Turbo 3 2D 698cc (2000 or later).

SEE FULL DETAILS - LINK UPDATED AUG 08

Who will the high powered and performance vehicle restriction apply to?

From 1 July 2007, provisional P1 and P2 licence
holders under 25 years of age must adhere to high
powered and performance vehicle restriction.

P1 and P2 probationary and restricted licence holders
disqualified after 30 June 2007 and under 25 years of
age at time of offence, will also be required to adhere
to the high powered and performance vehicle
restriction.


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Speed Camera Information Page Incl Below Link - LINK UPDATED AUG 08
Fixed Speed Camera FACTSHEET - LINK UPDATED AUG 08 **NEW DOCUMENT**


Demerit points offences
Offence Points

Less than 13 km/h over the speed limit:
A$100 + 1 demerit point.
At least 13 km/h but not more than 20 km/h over the speed limit:
A$150 + 3 demerit points.
More than 20 km/h but not more than 30 km/h over the speed limit:
A$250 + 4 demerit points.
More than 30 km/h but not more than 40 km/h over the speed limit:
A$350 + 6 demerit points.
More than 40 km/h over the speed limit:
A$700 + 8 demerit points and 6 month suspension.

Driver using hand-held mobile phone while driving 3
Careless driving 3
Disobeying certain red traffic light signals 3
Disobeying emergency traffic signs 3
Disobeying stop or give way signs and certain other traffic control devices 3
Failing to give way, other than by disobeying a traffic sign 3
Failing to keep left of two continuous dividing lines 3
Failing to wear helmet, seatbelt or restraint 3
Drive with passenger < 16 years who fails to wear seatbelt or restraint 3
Passenger 16 years or older who fails to wear seatbelt 3
Drive vehicle with person in or on parts of a motor vehicle not designed for passengers or goods,
or in open part of a motor vehicle designed for the carriage of goods 3
Drive with person in a trailer being towed 3
Exceed carrying capacity of vehicle (for example, by number of people in vehicle) 3
Improper turn (U-turn, left or right turn) 3
Using vehicle not in safe condition 3
Disobeying traffic lane arrows in roundabout 3
Operating television receivers and visual display units other than in a parked vehicle 3
Failing to keep left in any other case 2
Failing to give proper change of direction signal 2
Improper overtaking, passing or driving to right of centre of road 2
Improper turn (other than U-turn, left or right turn) 2
Increasing speed when being overtaken 2
Placing or dropping injurious matter on roads 2
Unnecessary noise or smoke from vehicle 2
Speedingâ€"less than 13 km/h over the speed limit 1
Following too closely 1
Failing to dip headlights 1
Failing to have lights lit 1
Improper vehicle equipment, construction or loading 1
Dazzling road users with any light fitted to or in vehicle 1
Learner driving while unaccompanied by licensed driver or while not under direction of licensed driver 1

* You will also be suspended from driving for six months
º Double demerit points apply when you speed more than 20 km/h above the
speed limit more than once within a 12 month period

Note: The list of offences in this table is not exhaustiveâ€"it shows only the most
common offences. For further current information about new and existing offences,
demerit points, suspensions, cancellations or appeals, visit
www.transport.gov.au/licensing or your nearest Queensland Transport customer
service centre, or contact Queensland Transport on 13 23 80.

I even went and found the full 23 page Demerit Points and FINE listing for everyone too :thumbsup:
All Demerit Points + Fines in QLD - DIRECT DOWNLOAD - LINK UPDATED AUG 08


And for everyone in general the 'latest' still an old one but direct downlod for the Vehicle Modification guide for vehicles upto 4.5T as suggested that everyone checks out online when being defected etc by a police officer.

Vehicle Modification Guide Booklet - Current Download PDF - LINK UPDATED FEB 2010

National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification (NCOP) which covers more in depth detail of light vehicle construction and modification.
National Modification Guide - LINK UNCONFIRMED

New Vehicle Impound Laws

New Vehicle Impound Laws - LINK UPDATED AUG 08 - DOCUMENT REVISED FROM 3 DOCUMENTS TO ONE 2 PAGE PDF.

Clearing Defects - QLD Taark's Thread

Edited by 51CAZ, 27 February 2010 - 11:18 AM.


#2 s15_Scotty

  • Joined:21-February 06
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:R32 Skyline

Posted 15 November 2007 - 08:02 PM

Great thread 51CAZ,

Just to add to the page, The vehicle modification link is a basic re-write of the National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification (NCOP) which covers more in depth detail of light vehicle construction and modification.

Heres the link: http://www.dotars.go...n/vsb_ncop.aspx

#3 51CAZ

  • Joined:04-July 04
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:180sx - FD3S S8

Posted 17 November 2007 - 04:43 PM

View Posts15_Scotty, on Nov 15 2007, 08:45 PM, said:

Great thread 51CAZ,

Just to add to the page, The vehicle modification link is a basic re-write of the National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification (NCOP) which covers more in depth detail of light vehicle construction and modification.

Heres the link: http://www.dotars.go...n/vsb_ncop.aspx


Thanks mate.

I'll add it to the top page.


EDIT: Cleaned up the thread as well.

#4 absoult*

  • Joined:16-January 08
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:The Two

Posted 16 January 2008 - 12:09 PM

Thanks Mate!

Edited by absoult*, 16 January 2008 - 04:46 PM.


#5 51CAZ

  • Joined:04-July 04
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:180sx - FD3S S8

Posted 16 January 2008 - 04:37 PM

I'll send you a PM.

And remove this post shortly to clean up the thread.

Bottom line is, that car will be fine :thumbsup:

#6 pubes16

  • Joined:28-October 07
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:Nissan Silvia S13

Posted 31 March 2008 - 04:48 PM

is anyone able to tell me this answer to this.

I'm on my P1's, and have lost some demerit points <_< :blush: .... when i go to the P2 stage in a few months, do i get all my points back or wats the go?

#7 51CAZ

  • Joined:04-July 04
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:180sx - FD3S S8

Posted 01 April 2008 - 01:28 PM

View Postpubes16, on Mar 31 2008, 05:31 PM, said:

is anyone able to tell me this answer to this.

I'm on my P1's, and have lost some demerit points <_< :blush: .... when i go to the P2 stage in a few months, do i get all my points back or wats the go?

Nope. Not until you go onto your opens :yes:

#8 pubes16

  • Joined:28-October 07
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:Nissan Silvia S13

Posted 01 April 2008 - 03:51 PM

but it says on the transport site that if you aquire 4 or more points in 1 year you'll be suspended etc.
so does that mean they reset after a year?

because for opens its 3 years and after every 3 you get all your points back?

#9 Gurglar

  • Joined:24-December 06
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:S15

Posted 09 June 2008 - 07:17 PM

I know the post above is old but I wanna know that similar question for p platers i've heard that you get your points back after 1 year of not commiting an offence or something and then i've heard you gotta wait until your on your opens so who knows the answer?

#10 nitsab

  • Joined:20-July 07
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:Nissan 180sx, Type x

Posted 09 June 2008 - 07:20 PM

^ you get full points (3 points) back once one year has passed.

#11 pubes16

  • Joined:28-October 07
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:Nissan Silvia S13

Posted 09 June 2008 - 08:45 PM

yea i found out when i went and paid for my fine.

you get all your points back, one (1) year later on the date that the fine was issued to you.

#12 Gurglar

  • Joined:24-December 06
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:S15

Posted 11 June 2008 - 11:45 AM

YAY! good stuff should get mine back soon do they send you a letter or something saying that you have all your points back? If not can I ring department of transport and find out what date I get them back? because I have no idea what date I lost mine but no its not to far away from a year.

#13 pubes16

  • Joined:28-October 07
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:Nissan Silvia S13

Posted 11 June 2008 - 11:30 PM

View PostGurglar, on Jun 11 2008, 12:28 PM, said:

YAY! good stuff should get mine back soon do they send you a letter or something saying that you have all your points back? If not can I ring department of transport and find out what date I get them back? because I have no idea what date I lost mine but no its not to far away from a year.
i have no idea whether they send you a letter or not. but you should be able to ring them or at least drop in and they will definitely have when you got what fine and shizz. :)

#14 Keish.LB

  • Joined:21-July 07
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:Onevia

Posted 18 July 2008 - 11:01 AM

I found this site earlier today, as i have been tryin to prove an officer wrong. It has work and he has since apologized for providing me with false information and acting like an absolute twat about the matter.

http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LEGISLTN...tOpRUVSSR99.pdf

#15 51CAZ

  • Joined:04-July 04
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:180sx - FD3S S8

Posted 09 August 2008 - 10:20 AM

It seems they've updated their site....I'll try and find the updated links and fix the thread.

In the mean time if anyone else finds them, please PM me!

#16 SL1D3WAYZ

  • Joined:18-December 06
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:180sx

Posted 27 January 2009 - 08:13 AM

would be really good for some1 to shed light on how long until u get all your points back

#17 51CAZ

  • Joined:04-July 04
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:180sx - FD3S S8

Posted 27 January 2009 - 08:35 AM

View PostSL1D3WAYZ, on Jan 27 2009, 08:56 AM, said:

would be really good for some1 to shed light on how long until u get all your points back

For a full time licence holder its 3 years from offence date.

#18 kaosgenki

  • Joined:08-December 08
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:92 Nissan Silvia S13 SR20DET

Posted 30 January 2009 - 01:16 AM

thats not good. Is there any way to find out how many points I have left without actually going and talking to them? maybe online?

#19 51CAZ

  • Joined:04-July 04
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:180sx - FD3S S8

Posted 30 January 2009 - 07:49 AM

From memory its a $75 request fee.

Alternatively if you lose a certain amount of points in that same year they send you a letter of all your history etc anyway.

QLD transport can dig up the information for you if you are really keen.

#20 FD3SRX7

  • Joined:28-April 09

Posted 28 April 2009 - 04:36 PM

i called them up, pretty useful and it is not like they can do much over the phone

#21 JINNS

  • Joined:11-April 07
  • Location:Australia SA
  • Car:r33

Posted 28 April 2009 - 04:49 PM

regarding the speeding I thought the demerit points were right
but p platers have something like you have 4 points unless you speed over 10 k over the speed limit

#22 GHOSTY

  • Joined:14-September 05
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:'02 S15

Posted 28 April 2009 - 07:02 PM

View Post51CAZ, on Jan 30 2009, 08:32 AM, said:

From memory its a $75 request fee.
Nop, they should be locked up if they were charging that, that's daylight robbery!


A while ago I rang QT, followed the phone prompts and went through to general licence/suspension & disqualificaiton enquiries etc, they ask you questions to identify you, then they can tell you anything about your records.

#23 kaosgenki

  • Joined:08-December 08
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:92 Nissan Silvia S13 SR20DET

Posted 29 April 2009 - 03:02 PM

I did find out, I had lost it. BUT they gave me the good behaviour option. much better than no sil drivin at all.

#24 Rebelin

  • Joined:22-January 10
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:S13

Posted 31 January 2011 - 07:44 PM


WHat is section 13 i have looked on there site but its to confusing?

a modified engine that must be approved under section 13 of the Transport Operations (Road Use Management Vehicle Standards and Safety) Regulation 2010.




#25 dveant

  • Joined:16-September 06
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:S13 Silvia CA18DET

Posted 04 February 2012 - 05:31 PM

Finding out some info for my lil bro who is on his P1 plates. If you need mod plates for an upgrade like for the brakes, is that a legal mod for a P1 licence holder or can u not drive a car that needs mod plates even if it non turbo?

#26 Silvieson

  • Joined:22-October 06
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:Aero S13

Posted 04 February 2012 - 11:11 PM

P players are not allowed any mods that require a mod plate unfortunately :(

#27 dveant

  • Joined:16-September 06
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:S13 Silvia CA18DET

Posted 05 February 2012 - 10:07 AM

Thought as much. Thanks

#28 EnFlaMEd

  • Joined:06-January 05
  • Location:Australia SA

Posted 05 February 2012 - 11:01 AM

Man we get raped on fines in SA compared to you guys. My most recent one, 16kmh over the limit, was $430!

#29 lukey d

  • Joined:17-July 11
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:1992 s13

Posted 28 May 2012 - 11:21 AM

hey guys i was just having a read, and i remembered that laws have changed with the high powered vehicles.

there is a topic of moderately powered vehicles here
http://www.tmr.qld.g...e-vehicles.aspx





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