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  1. F**king hell this country is f**ked. I'd like to just say "time to invest in a VPN and give them the finger", but my real concern is the phone call data logging and location tracking via towers.

    Maybe some of these may be of interest...







    and to stop location tracking via towers...

    http://www.privacycase.com/ or you can wrap your phone in tin foil - you'll look like a weirdo but it works


    and some vpn providers for people that need them








    it should go without saying but to anyone thinking about just using free proxy sites; be careful, alot of these are set up by hackers to conduct mitm (man in the middle) attacks.


    ^as long as its not kiddie porn or praying to the prophet mohammed, you should be right:)


    When German Jews were filling out the 1939 census they probably didn't think to much of it either, who would have thought that the Nazi's would have used the census information to hunt them down and kill them.


    The real issue is not so much 'are you doing anything wrong?'. It's the potential for misuse of this information that is worrying. With there already being talk of expanding the scope of the plan to allow agencies like the ATO and even private companies have access to the data and the inevitable scope creep that will accompany such a program; there is a very real chance of this information being data mined to profile citizens, to manipulate and influence the political system, financial markets, judicial systems and engage in industrial espionage (kinda like what happen with the Indonisia incident).


    But just keeping in line with the thinking of 'haven't done anything wrong', ever downloaded a song or a movie? you think the MPAA, RIAA won't be going after this data? Ever swore at sombody in a txt message, phone call or online? You could be charged with using a carriage service to menace or harass. There are millions of pieces of legislation in place so odds are your breaking numerous laws everyday without ever even realizing it. Someone in a position of power has beef with you, wouldn't be real hard to go on a fishing expedition.

  2. It's not often you come accross a positive story about Australian politics, but apparently Australia's 'Nanny State' mentality has become an important enough issue that a full senate inquiry headed by ns fravorite, the LDP's David Leyonhjelm, is being launched to look at many of the over protectioist laws that we have in place.




    Now I don't know what this inquiry will acheive; probably nothing (especially after looking at all the abc loving left wing hippie do-gooders and SJW's complaining about it in the comments section). But it is nice to se a shift in consciousness, even if it is a small one, and for some of these issues to finally be debated in the public domain.


    If nothing else at least this might help him and people like him get a bit more exposure and help them come election time.

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  3. Aren't the senate proposals just designed to make voting below the line easier?


    We'll have to wait and see the finalized proposal for that part. The far more concerning part is tactics such as this

    The report also calls for parties to have 1500 members before they can register with the AEC (edit: up from 500), and wants Senate candidates to be required to reside in the state or territory in which they stand.


    There have also been other tactics like this in the past (especially at a state level) where they have tried to squeeze out smaller parties by either raising the price to register a party or changing the rules for how and when a party can register.


    “The emergence of more small parties in the Senate and the plethora of parties contesting shows that the major parties are not providing the solutions to society’s problems that the electorate wants”, she said. “Their way of dealing with this, is to impose economic sanctions and completely arbitrary polling parameters on minor parties in an attempt to knock us out of the race. This is yet another example of their complete lack of ideas to solve the problems of larger ballot papers. We need more democracy to solve the problem, not less”.

    Quote: Fiona Patten

  4. Well as if it wasn't bad enough that the Abbott Government has pretty much destroyed the NBN (http://goo.gl/9VBFjS), It now looks as though the Abbott government is going to back-flip on yet another election promise and start censoring the internet as well as bringing in a 3 strikes rule for file sharing.




    While No doubt this is in part to appease uncle Rupert as many have suggested it is also part of the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement that Abbott is so keen to sign.


    Bunch of links about the TPP for those that are interested












    Anyway, back to the point. It looks like we may wind up having our internet censored in the coming months. There is a petition against it set up by the Australian Pirate Party (http://delimiter.com.au/2014/05/06/pirate-party-launches-anti-brandis-piracy-petition/ or https://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/stop-blaming-consumers-for-the-outdated-business-models-of-the-media-industry), but I don't know how much of an effect it will have. It really seems to depend on weather Labor will support it because they also support censorship or weather they'll move to block it out of spite to get back at the coalition.


    Either way it's probably a good time to start looking into getting yourself a VPN





    Also worth mentioning here is the proposed senate reforms being put forth to basically try and get rid of small micro parties such as the Australain Sex Party, The Pirate Party, LDP, Australian Motoring Enthusiasts Party etc etc, that would oppose such policies.


  5. Well it looks like AMEP got it's 1st little bit of media coverage...


    from a story on abc news...

    Greens leader Christine Milne expects to share power with a "plethora" of other parties after next July.

    "I had a look at the motoring enthusiasts and say they want unfettered access to the environment. I think that means four-wheel drives and off-road vehicles and so on," she said.


    They also briefly covered it on 'The Drum', where they basically think AMEP is some sort of "extremist" party for 4wd enthusiasts....LOL... Don't you just love the quality of journalism in Australia?

    Oh well I guess that's better than the rant my old man had today about the LDP and AMEP. Some how he has managed to come to the conclusion that all the people who are involved with AMEP and those that voted for them are "all unemployed bludgers who shouldn't have the right vote because they just want to bludge off the government?????" (Sorry, but it just was so ridiculous that i just had to share that with somebody and I am currently taking steps to disown him as my father) :doh::whack:



    Anyways back to my main point, it seems this has already given the establishment a bit of a shakeup, with may complaining about smaller parties gaming the system. Ironic how the powers that be who have set up and gamed the system for so long in order to maintain there monopoly on power are now whinging because the people have been paying attention and are now starting to use there own tactics against them. And as for this idea that the LDP only got a seat because of there name, come on, they've had that name for a while now and it wasn't an issue in previous elections.

    Here's the full story for those of you who are interested....

    Minor parties to play key role in Senate make-up



    New minor parties appear set to play a key role in the Senate, with billionaire Clive Palmer's party likely to pick up two spots, in Queensland and Tasmania, and a party for motoring enthusiasts on track to win a seat in Victoria.

    Vote counting for the Senate is continuing and preference deals mean even a tiny percentage of the popular vote can influence the outcome.

    The Senate will remain under the control of Labor and the Greens until mid-2014 and after that it appears an assortment of parties will play a key role in what Tony Abbott can achieve.

    In a surprise result, former rugby league player Glenn Lazarus appears to have claimed a Queensland Senate seat for the Palmer United Party(PUP), which is also likely to be represented by Jacqui Lambie in Tasmania.

    The Australian Motoring Enthusiasts Party's Ricky Muir could secure a Senate spot in Victoria, while the Australian Sports Party may pick up a seat in Western Australia.

    West Australian Labor Senator Mark Bishop says the Sports Party result would come in spite of the party only attracting a small amount of the primary vote.

    "I think the Sports Party had 225 primary votes and a quota is something in the order of 123,000 votes in Western Australia so to do that is a remarkable outcome," he said.

    "But that is the system, everyone knows that and the Senate is a process distribution of preferences."

    Independent Nick Xenophon and the Greens' Sarah Hanson-Young are likely to retain their seats in South Australia, where Family First's Bob Day also appears to have claimed a seat.

    Many people in the major parties believe name confusion is the reason the Liberal Democratic Party is on track to have a Senator elected in New South Wales.

    Liberal Democrat David Leyonhjelm has secured 8.89 per cent of the vote with 69.29 per cent of the votes counted.

    The Coalition's Senate leader, Eric Abetz, has accused the Liberal Democratic Party of playing games with the electoral system.

    "They simply used the name to garner votes to then distribute out to minor parties and came nowhere near the Liberal Party where it counted," he said.

    "That is a matter that brings the democratic process into disrepute when people see that they are being gamed, they are being tricked people will lose confidence in the democratic system and ultimately that will need to be looked at."

    'Bizarre preference flows all over the shop': Xenophon


    Speaking to the ABC's Insiders program, Senator Xenophon described the results as "very interesting".

    "It happens because of the way preference flows work and there are harvesting of preferences," he said.

    "I didn't get any advantage from anyone. I always had to win basically two full quotas in order for my running mate to get up but there is a lack of transparency in terms of preference deals.

    "For instance, in South Australia, the Greens preferenced the climate sceptics ahead of my running mate who actually believes in climate change and believes that something needs to be done about it in a very constructive way.

    "So, all sorts of bizarre preference flows all over the shop. Clive Palmer, a coal miner, preferenced the Greens ahead of my running mate in South Australia. You go figure."


    Labor luminary and failed candidate Peter Beattie says he will no longer be Australia's only political "media tart" should Mr Palmer enter Parliament.

    "One thing that will happen no-one will be able to ignore Clive. If he wins that seat and he's got a Senator, Glenn Lazarus, even if it is just the two of them, you're going to see an interesting state," he said.

    "The Labor Party and the Greens may not have the numbers in the Senate, and if Clive has the balance of power ... you're going to have to say a big prayer but you're going to have a lot of fun."

    Greens leader Christine Milne expects to share power with a "plethora" of other parties after next July.

    "I had a look at the motoring enthusiasts and say they want unfettered access to the environment. I think that means four-wheel drives and off-road vehicles and so on," she said.

    "That gives you a bit of an insight where they're coming from. I also looked at the Sporting Australia Party and they're all for a healthier Australia and more involvement in physical exercise and sport. We could work with them in making Australia healthier."

    The Greens look to have increased their Senate representation by picking up a seat in Victoria.

    Pros and cons for Labor as Peris in, Farrell likely out


    Olympian Nova Peris, who was Julia Gillard's "captain's pick" for the Senate, has become the first Indigenous woman to be elected to federal Parliament after winning a seat in the Northern Territory.

    "It is a good accomplishment and backs up our accomplishment in terms of jobs for Indigenous Australians," Labor powerbroker Bill Shorten said.

    However in a blow to Labor, Don Farrell appears to have been edged out of the Senate after sacrificing his top spot on the ticket to ensure the return of Penny Wong.

    "That was the right decision to make at the time. I've got no regrets about that," he told ABC News.

    "I'm a person who likes to look forward rather than back. We've had to make some tough decisions over this period of time. The party has been very divided in the past. We need to reunite now."

    The WikiLeaks Party did not pick up any seats, but founder Julian Assange says he is still pleased with its performance in the election.

    "The party was registered exactly three months ago and we are the second largest vote count for the new parties after Clive Palmer's party, which had a million bucks behind it," he said.

    According to the ABC's election calculator, which models the Senate result, the Coalition is on track to pick up 33 seats across Australia.

    In contrast it predicts Labor has taken 25, while the Greens will claim 10 seats and eight will go to other parties.

    The final vote count for the Senate will not be finalised for days.

  6. I just hope whoever people vote for, they take the time to vote below the line and control there preferences.



    IF YOU don't vote below the line you may accidentally elect a senator who is completely opposed to everything you believe in.

    The Senate ballot paper is huge so it's no wonder an overwhelming majority of Australians don't bother voting below the line.

    In the 2007 election 96.78 per cent of voters who took one look at the massive Senate ballot paper, thought "Nuh", and voted above the line.

    Electoral politics expert Haydon Manning said "sneaky" preference deals could see colourful candidates elected this Saturday.

    "It pays to check that you're happy where your preferences are going," Prof Manning from Flinders University said.

    "The danger of course is if you go above the line, particularly if you go for a minor party, you may have no idea how they've allocated their preferences. A party with a snappy slogan might not actually be fair dinkum. Voters need to be alert but not alarmed.

    "If you really don't like, say, Family First or the Greens, if you go above the line you could end up electing a Green or a Family First."

    How do senators get elected?

    Each state elects six senators (territories elect two), but the vote isn't decided based on which candidates get the most votes.

    A candidate needs one quota - about 14 per cent of the vote - to become a senator.

    "Liberal and Labor, generally speaking, are going to get 30-38 per cent of the Senate vote. They will immediately swallow up two quotas," Prof Manning said.

    "After that you eliminate the candidate with the least votes and distribute their preferences. This will go on, simply distributing out preferences by eliminating the minor parties and the individuals and distributing the preferences until you find the candidate who has a bundle of votes to fill a quota."

    "Some candidates with 2-5 per cent of the vote have a chance if they have done beneficial preference deals with other parties."

    If you want to vote above the line, you can check the party you plan to vote for and their preferences on the Australian Electoral Commission.

    If you want to vote below the line but feel overwhelmed by the prospect, Prof Manning suggests you use ballot paper tools such as senate.io or belowtheline.org.au.

    These allow you to sort your preferences before you go to the polling station, print them out or save them to your phone, and then quickly number all the candidates once you're in the polling booth.

    Do you know who you're voting for?


    Flame-haired candidate Pauline Hanson stands quite likely to pick up a Senate seat in NSW, analysts say.

    If she wins just over 2 per cent of the vote she is a contender because several minor parties are driving their preferences towards fellow minor parties including One Nation instead of the major organisations.

    These parties include Katter's Australian Party, the Smoker's Rights Party, the Liberal Democratic Party, the Animal Justice Party and Family First.


    You thought were voting for Labor. But you may also be voting for the party of the half-man, half-akubra from North Queensland.

    Labor is directing its Senate preferences in the sunshine state towards Katter's ticket. Country musician James Blundell may enter Parliament as a result.


    After their Coalition partners, Nationals senators will direct their preferences to Julian Assange's Wikileaks Party in WA.


    Remember Stephen Fielding?

    The Family First senator, firmly opposed to the concept of evolution, was a big obstacle for Kevin Rudd's administration in its earliest incarnation.

    Mr Fielding's long gone but Family First is in for a chance for a seat in Tasmania. If you vote Liberal or for Palmer's United Party the ultraconservative party may be preferenced with your vote.


    Nick Xenophon, the extraordinarily successful independent senator from South Australia, tends to lean to the left side of the spectrum.

    But because of a stoush with the Greens, his valuable preferences will now be distributed equally between the Liberal Party and and the Labor Party.

    (A previous version of this story which said his preferences would just be directed to the Liberal Party was incorrect.)


    anyways AMEP or Sex Party ftw...

  7. There has been a precedent set in sa that could see a way of fighting such laws.


    there was a thread on here about it a little while back.


    Would be interesting to see this tested in other states.


    Oh and king troll, your an absolute fvcking idiot if you really belive 'it'll never happen'. How many of these fvcked up laws have to come into place before people like you will wake up to themselves and realise these bullshit laws can and do get passed on a regular basis.

  8. This is a post from another hacker who is in similar circumstances. Pretty scary how hard the US government goes after hackers.


    Rape, kill, steal, throw the global financial economy into ruin.... they don't seem to give a shit, access some information that you weren't suppose to through a public facing API and they'll throw the book at you.





    Editor’s note: Andrew Auernheimer, also known by his pseudonym weev, is an American grey hat hacker and self-described Internet troll. Follow him on Twitter @rabite.

    In June of 2010 there was an AT&T webserver on the open Internet. There was an API on this server, a URL with a number at the end. If you incremented this number, you saw the next iPad 3G user email address. I thought it was egregiously negligent for AT&T to be publishing a complete target list of iPad 3G owners, and I took a sample of the API output to a journalist at Gawker.

    I did this because I despised people I think are unjustly wealthy and wanted to embarass them. I thought this is the United States of America where we have the right to do basic arithmetic and query public webservers.

    I was convicted of two consecutive five-year felonies, and am now awaiting sentencing.

    I left the Aaron Swartz memorial tonight emotionally exhausted. Here is a guy who was beloved by many of my close friends, whose suffering and miseries I have shared in kind. I’ll never forget when the Secret Service started following me. My lover at the time and I treated it like a game, spending our days ditching surveillance in the best ways possible: speedboats, helicopters, club bouncers.

    Over time, this has become less and less of a game. It soon became clear that I could not be both an activist and a capitalist. I quit my six figure job at the time because the former was more important to me. Then one day, everything changed. FBI agents tried to frame me for terrorism in 2008. Twice. They ruined my career, my relationship, my life. Nobody believed that I could be a terrorist so now they try to libel me as an identity thief.

    Lawrence Lessig said of Aaron’s indictment that the prosecutor Ortiz was “either an idiot, or a liar.” I know this feeling all too well.

    One of my prosecutors, Michael Martinez, claimed that our querying a public webserver was criminal because “it isn’t like going to ESPN and checking your sports team’s scores.”

    The facts: AT&T admitted, at trial, that they “published” this data. Their words. Public-facing, programmatic accesses of APIs happen upwards of a trillion times per day. Twitter broke 13 billion on their API ages ago. This is something that happens more than the entire population of Earth, daily. The government has no problem with this up until you transform the output into something offensive to important people. People with “disruptive” startups, this is your fair warning: They are coming for you next.

    The other one of my prosecutors, Zach Intrater, said that a comment I made about Goatse Security, my information security working group, starting a certification process to declare systems “goatse tight” was evidence of my intent to personally profit. For those not in on the joke: Goatse is an Internet memereferencing a man holding open his anus very widely. The mind reels.

    I can’t survive like this. I am happy to be hitting a prison cell soon. They ruined my business. The feds get approval of who I can work for or with: they rejected one company because the CEO had a social network profile with an occupation listed as “hacker.” They prohibit me from touching any computer that isn’t federally monitored. I do my best to slang Perl code on an Android device to comply with my bail conditions. It isn’t pretty.

    Ivy league educated and wealthy, Aaron dealt with his indictment so badly because he thought he was part of a special class of people that this didn’t happen to. I am from a rundown shack in Arkansas. I spent many years thinking people from families like his got better treatment than me. Now I realize the truth: The beast is so monstrous it will devour us all. None will be spared.

    So now I stare at a form that the government wants me to fill out before sentencing labelled “acceptance of responsibility” and wonder what I can possibly fill in this slot. This letter is it.

    I accept my responsibility, and hope you do too, of dismantling this terrible empire so that this can’t happen to anyone.

    This is the difference between the prosecutors and FBI agents and I. They wish me utterly destroyed, and have been hounding me for years of my life. They have been surveilling me, by their own admission, since I was 15. You know what I wish for? A world where no man may abridge the liberty of another. Not me, not you, not the FBI, not federal prosecutors. I actually hope they have fulfilling lives, and come to realize the mistake of treating our Constitution like toilet paper.

    This is a country where if you express ideas that federal agents don’t like you, you will be beaten, imprisoned, or killed. I accept my responsibility for offending seditious thugs, liars and tyrants. I say this is the duty of all decent citizens left.

    God bless.

    Andrew Auernheimer

    (*Those who assert our right to access public web APIs can donate to the effort to overturn the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. More info at cfaadefensefund.com. - Andrew Auernheimer)



    Tags: Andrew Auernheimer, weev

  9. The pigs...


    I really don't know why people keep sticking up for them, sayin shit like "they're just doing their job".


    Fvucking bullshit!!!!!


    You see the smug sense of self satisfaction in there faces when they're handing out tickets, the condescending god complex in the way they speak to people, the fact that they get visably angry when they can't find something to defect you for. if they're just doing their job, why are they angry, if the car is roadworthy, why do they care, they should be happy.


    About 10 years ago i used to have a neighbor who was a cop and he used to brag about how he use to love working saturday nights because of all the fights because it gave him a chance to use his capsicum spray on people. WTF!!!! this sort of attitude has no place in policing. if you worked as a doorman or something like that, you wouldn't last long in the job with an attitude like that but it seems to be pretty common place for the pigs. There was recently a study into which jobs were most likely to attract psychopaths and the police force ranked number seven. And here we are giving them more powers not to mention fvcking guns...


    Apparently there are suppose to be good cops out there, but i'd be fvcked if i've met any lately. in my opinion the various police departments around australia are a fvcking disgrace.


    i always cop shit when i say this but i don't care anymore because as far as i'm concerned my feelings are perfectly justified.


    fvck the police!!!!

  10. Considering two days ago, the Police broke a screen to get into my house, let one of my cats out, left all of the lights on and could offer us no explanation for nearly 24hrs as to why they had done any of this, whatever the f**k stops that should be in our bill of rights. Turns out that a single person had said we have a hydro setup (anonymous tip-off apparently). I explained to the police that we're the straightest people in the street. We don't drink, don't do drugs, haven't done drugs, etc etc. There was no apology, more of a Well lucky you aren't criminals or things would have been worse. Now I have to replace a f**king screen window (at my expense after the officer calmly explained that they "Don't accept any liability.") and explain to the neighbours that, "Despite the Police turning up to my doorstep with a battering ram, we're not a danger to you or your children. Have a nice day." Apparently the POLICE couldn't get hold of either mine or my wife's number. The f**king POLICE couldn't get hold my mine or my wife's number.


    We still have absolutely no idea who would have told the cops that we had a hydro setup. We don't have any enemies, don't piss off our neihgbours, nothing. Moral of the story: Having a bad day? Become a cop. Break into people's houses and destroy their shit. You won't have to pay for a cent.


    Another thing added to my list of "reasons to hate the police". Fast dwarfing the "reasons to like the police" list, which is currently sitting at, well, nothing.


    You should definitely go and speak to a lawyer. (1st consultation is usually free so you've got nothing to loose)


    This sort of thing seems to be a pretty common occurrence, police think they are just a law unto themselves....This is a video from a few years ago down in wagga wagga NSW that got caught on security camera.


    Uploaded on Oct 5, 2009


    This is some security footage of my house and police officers doing illegal things the video showes (top left hand corner) the police ripping the camera of its ledge and putting it on its end and also (top righthand corner ) the police officers illegally searching the back yard, this video was originally posted on youtube it was legally recorded and posted but i have being (not threatand) but asked nicely to remove it i felt i should remove it so i wouldnt be harrased by the police even more this has being put on the front page of the weekend advertiser they need to get put back in there places start doing there jobs properly instead of being so courropt it needs to stop this is the origainal footage from my dvr this has being reuploaded onto youtube due to popular demend of people wanting to watch it i have had aproxmitly 50+ messages of people wanting to see it therefore i am putting it back up enjoy watching


  11. I dont hink you guys realise what it costs to run a shop as apposed to an online shop.

    a shop can cost you thousands to run a week, a online shop from your mums basement is free maybe 50 bucks for domain name and hosting a month

    they can afford to sell shirts for 2 bucks profit each one cause they will sell hundreds, a shop needs to make 10-20 bucks off a shirt to cover costs.

    if you have never been in charge of a shop then you have no idea what your talking about with comments like "why should i buy from a shop for 50% more when online is cheaper"


    And I don't think you know me, so don't assume I don't know what it costs to run a shop. I'm well aware of what it costs to run a shop. Don't start blaming everyone else because you suck at business. It you don't know how to source cheaper product/manufacturing, negotiate better deals, develop more efficient procedures to maximize productivity or develop a brand and market yourself better, that's your problem! Not the internet, not your competitors and certainly not consumers.


    Furthermore you obviously have know clue given your comments about the costs of on-line retail. What, you think the products they sell just materialize out of thin air? Just like any bricks and mortar business they have things like minimum purchasing orders, they need somewhere to warehouse stock, they need people to keep the website up and running, they need customer service people to answer inquiries, people to process and dispatch orders, book-keeping, marketing etc etc. Running a successful on-line business is really no different to running a traditional bricks and mortar business for the most part. They just have more efficient possesses that allow them to be far more productive while reducing waste.




    crap vid but it gets the point accross




    Thanks Chappy, reinforcing everything ive said. Everyone talking about not getting service at stores as an excuse for not buying from them can pretty much rule that out. It is something not needed at all and if that is the only competitive advantage a store front offers then they have no chance.


    Ill clarify again, not saying we shouldn't buy online, will just hate to see what happens when some of the retailers start disappearing and the knock on effect to the economy and perhaps the job that you currently sit in?





    Its not just the retail you see its the background.


    Lets say Total Tools close down because everyone buys their Drills online. You've lost not just the physical stores and staff tied to that company but also the Tool companies that sell to it. Gone are Account Managers, Marketing, Customer Service, Service centre, logistics, warehousing. Without the multiple outlets there is less requirement for human capital not just within the retail outlet but everyone effected by its closure. If you buy from overseas that comes out of another departments budget - yes that department will grow but not with local jobs. Jobs may appear overseas, but not here. I think we all know the state of our talent loss to overseas.


    Retail is not a closed loop, while only 1 million untrained staff rely on it, its the business', the suppliers that sell through that will have the hard time.


    You need to think of how many companies operate within Australia that risk closing down because their channel doesn't exist. While yes, the brand remains, the local contingent has no use. Thats a hell of a lot more people than 1 million. How many suppliers from Total Tools do you think there are, 1000? How many people do those 1000 suppliers employ, how many of them wont be needed if their channel closes? Thats not a number taken into account during these discussions.




    may hold some water, its an industry, an industry with many components, not just the shop floor.


    Think beyond your immediate self and what you know, think bigger and think of how that trails down to your job. Any effect on any sized industry is felt through a population of 23million


    Retail is not going anywhere. people still need goods and they still need people to supply them with those goods. The only thing that will change is the shop fronts.


    As I said above even on-line retailers still need people to serve customers, process and dispatch orders, market their brand, deliver goods, do book-keeping etc etc. There are still real people in real jobs behind the scenes. An example of this is recently Woolworths started offering on-line shopping near where I live and the store near me just hired 20 new people to fulfill orders.


    Big retailers are up in arms protesting this not because they're afraid the internet is going to kill retail, but because they are heavily invested in dated business models that become less valuable everyday and they want to return back to 'the good old days' where they were able to monopolize the market.


    Many smaller retailers are afraid of change because many lack the business skills and knowledge to adapt, but really they shouldn't be, things like the internet, outsourcing and automation open up a world of opportunities. As another example, a client/friend of mine who owns a small transmission workshop was getting murdered by his suppliers. So I helped him source products and manufacturing to his specification out of Asia (1st shipment of parts should be here late next week in fact), One of the sources we found actually supplies his previous suppliers. This has opened up the opportunity for him to move into the distribution game himself and/or develop his own line of products under his own brand that he'll be able to sell on a national or potentially even international level.


    As others have said what Australia need to do is focus on investing in innovation, we need to create more. Not put in place a bunch of stupid protectionist laws designed to take us back to the 1950's and protect the business interests of large retailers allowing them to maintain there monopoly on the retail sector.

  12. Local retailers dominate online shopping searches in 2012



    AUSTRALIAN retailers may be missing out on sales because of faulty websites and poor service, not competition from overseas retailers, experts say.

    Big Australian retailers are ramping up their pressure on the government to lower the GST threshold on overseas imports to combat the "unfair disadvantage" they face from overseas stores.

    But statistics released today by Google show major Australian retailers dominated the list of most searched shopping brands in 2012.

    eBay was the most searched, followed by Woolworths, Big W, Coles, Harvey Norman, Kmart and Target.



    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/business/companies/local-retailers-dominate-online-shopping-searches-in-2012/story-fnda1bsz-1226536956082#ixzz2F0C4Dg8K

  13. The thing that is really annoying is that half the time its not even price that is the deciding factor in most peoples choice to buy on-line. It's things like convenience, range and quite often better customer service. Its quite often just a better customer experience.


    I don't think people realize how large the retail sector is and what the multiplier effect will look like on the rest of the economy should it collapse


    But it won't collapse, we'll just see a changing of the guard. while franchises like harvey norman and myer may collapse, new and more efficient modern retail brands will start to appear. not to mention increases in industries such as warehousing, transport/logistics, marketing/advertising etc as well as new opportunities that will come into fruition for innovative entrepreneurs who are smart enough to take advantage of the benefits of automation and outsourcing and the much lower start-up and operating costs that come with it. All of a sudden business that would not have been viable just 10 years ago will now have a chance to thrive.


    examples of this can be seen in the tech industry where advances in things like high level programming languages/frameworks and the introduction of things like IAAS services (cloud hosting), have reduced the costs so much that a tech start up that here 10 years ago would have cost well over half a million dollars just to get it off the ground can now get up and running for under 50 grand. This has led to an explosion in the tech industry.


    Australian companies need to stop trying to implement all these stupid protectionist laws and dragging us back into the 1950's and start thinking about how to operate in a global economy and taking advantage of all the opportunities that come with it for the savvy player.

  14. TheApothecary hasn't quite said this correctly (I'm assuming he's referencing the tendancy for donkey-voters to simply vote for the devil they know), but the reality of the situation is blindingly obvious. When you don't vote at all, you're effectively passing your vote onto every biased, insane or retarded person out there, because your vote for the least-bad option isn't there to cancel out the crazy's vote for whatever extremist party they think is a great choice for this nation. And don't fool your self either - the nutjobs never fail to vote. History has proven this more than enough times.




    I think you'll find that most of these "extremist parties" get in not because of nut-jobs voting for them but rather Australia's messed up preferencing system. Such as when Family First got a seat in federal parliament with less than 1% of the primary vote. Similar examples can be found in NSW with the christian democrats and shooters parties.


    Retailers form new lobby group




    AUSTRALIAN retailers may be doing it hard, but they are fighting back with a new industry group designed to lobby governments on a range of issues affecting the struggling sector.

    The Australian Traders Group (ATG) will be launched in Melbourne on Friday with the purpose of lobbying governments on issues such as the reduction of the low value imports threshold for GST, the importation of counterfeit products, penalty rates and rent agreements.





    So here we go again, big retailers who refuse to modernize blaming the internet for all there woes are going to be throwing tons of money at our political parties to try and pass laws that will drag us back into the dark ages so that they can continue price gouging customers while delivering terrible customer service....


    Its shit like this that makes me feel a whole lot less guilty about writing a piece of code that could put businesses like these out of business some day. They fvcking deserve it.

  16. I believe something like that would be unconstitutional, being that it regulates freedom of speech.


    Australia doesn't have freedom of speech.


    General wikipedia summary - http://en.wikipedia....untry#Australia

    Australia has an implied freedom of speech. And yes, it is respected in the courts.



    oh really



    Jones ordered to apologise for 'vermin' comments



    SEVEN years after shock jock Alan Jones called Sydney's Lebanese Muslims "vermin" who "infest our shores" and "rape" and "pillage" our nation, he must apologise.



    I'm sorry but that doesn't seem like the courts respecting freedom of speech to me. forget what you think of the man or what he said, this is a pretty clear cut case of the courts persecuting someone for voicing there opinion.

  17. Just when you thought politics in this country couldn't get anymore absurd.


    For a long time whenever some stupid law was proposed that took away peoples freedoms or something, people would joke "what are they going to do next? Make it illegal to offend people?"


    Well yes actually, that's exactly what they're going to try and do under proposed changes to anti-discrimination laws. They want to make it illegal to offend people!!!! :silly::yes:



    ABC chairman Jim Spigelman slams ALP laws that make it illegal to be offensive



    ABC chairman and former top jurist Jim Spigelman has warned that a planned overhaul of discrimination law will impose unprecedented restrictions on free speech, including making it unlawful to offend people,








    Oh and speaking of stupid proposals I may as well hijack my thread and post this up too.


    Seems that alcopops tax was a winner :doh:


    this was also highly amusing