How to get 200kw out of sr20det with std turbo

[Mike.SR20.180sx 0]

Hey guys, got a pretty much stock 97 180sx black top sr20det and was looking to get as much reliable power as i can out of the stock turbo.

What can the stock turbo's run safely?

I was ganna get a PFC maybe D-Jetro dunno yet and dunno what else i'll need.

Thanks

[chris268 1]

whats on the car now?

exhaust, fmic, ebc, intake, aftermarket fuel pump?

 

oh, and do a search. been covered a few times

[Mike.SR20.180sx 0]

whats on the car now?

exhaust, fmic, ebc, intake, aftermarket fuel pump?

 

oh, and do a search. been covered a few times

 

Yeah i did a bit of a search but couldn't find much in full detail about starting from scratch.

All its got on it is a Apexi power intake pod and 3inch cat back.

[Jason12 5]

Get an intercooler, fuel pump and ebc as said and see how you go from there. Should make 200 or close to.

[xtr-33m 0]

pretty sure the stock turbo is t25, that wont cut it.

 

you will need a T28 (ball bearing preferred) off a s15

[*BoostOnTap* 1]

nos lol

 

 

you wont get 200rwkw on a t25 in your 180sx

 

i have 190rwkw and i have a t28bb, fuel system, microtech, on 14psi

[JDM 20T 22]

Im running 215kw

 

T28BB

Apexi D Jetro

Bosch 040

Sard fuel reg

Full Zorst, No CAT

Profec B EBC

Cooler

Split fires

Manifold

Sard 660cc Injectors

 

215 @ 15psi

[BlackSR 0]

You can only get a max of 150-160rwkw out of a stock T25g on the s13 sr20det. you will need to change to t28bb or t28rs "disco potatoe" to get that amount of reliable power. You will also need to change you injectors and get a ecu re-map as the 390cc stockers with max out at around 185-190rwkw.

 

I had s13 blacktop sr20det with fMIC, pod,pump,zorst made 155rwkw and changed turbo for t28bb and got 185rwkw on 13psi but injectors were on 80% duty.

 

black sr

[crzy_1via 53]

Im running 215kw

 

T28BB

Apexi D Jetro

Bosch 040

Sard fuel reg

Full Zorst, No CAT

Profec B EBC

Cooler

Split fires

Manifold

 

215 @ 15psi

thats a very happy dyno run mate. 15psi on that setup would see about 185-195kw.

 

theres no chance u will do it with a t25 and a t28 will be at its limits seeing 200 day in day out. no such thing as budget power.

[Gurglar 2]

Get an intercooler, fuel pump and ebc as said and see how you go from there. Should make 200 or close to.

 

hahaha newbie doesn't know to much.

 

The T25's max efficiency range is about 12psi i'm pretty sure anything higher than that and it would only be blowing heat.

 

I'm just doing my front mount, 3 inch turbo back exhaust, pod and boost controller and gonna be running 12psi (i've already upgraded my fuel pump) and was told to expect around 150-160kw.

 

So to reach your goal 200kw you will have to get a bigger turbo and all of the above plus some extras like bigger injectors, afm, new ecu (or remap the stock one) probably forgot some things but yeah you won't reach 200 with the stock turbo.

[volt_bite 1]

maybe he means at the flywheel xD

[Hijacker... 0]

So you gunna dyno it tomorrow "Gurglar"?

[Gurglar 2]

So you gunna dyno it tomorrow "Gurglar"?

 

Nah I said i'm in the process of installing it and that was the power figure I was told to expect by numerous people running standard turbo on 12psi

[BlackSR 0]

When i had my s13 sr20det, i remember speaking to tilbrook guys and they said you can run 18-20psi and a high pressure reg to help the fuel out which can with the standrad t25g push out 180-190rwkw BUT This would not be a safe reliable way of doing it, so I would NOT recomend it!

 

Thats why i didn't do it and changed the turbo over to a gt28r turbo from HPIAB.

 

black sr

[Mike.SR20.180sx 0]

Yeah i might go a t28 with a pfc d-jetro a fmic and prob get fuel pump and injectors.

Wonder if standard clutch will hold up??

[BlackSR 0]

I had a semi heavy duty organic and i was fairly soft on it nut it lasted about 1 year after i put the bigger turbo in. just started slippin.

 

seee how ya go and if it dies, change it then.

 

Black sr

[crzy_1via 53]

Yeah i might go a t28 with a pfc d-jetro a fmic and prob get fuel pump and injectors.

Wonder if standard clutch will hold up??

dude if u want 200 do this and only this

 

t28 ball bearing turbo

s15 injectors

walbro gs341/bosch 040 fuel pump

power fc ecu

z32 afm

 

its not a probably with the fuel pump and injectors, its a must. do them before u do nething else. if ur car doesnt get sufficient fuel, BOOM. plus ur stock fuel pump will shit its self in no time with that power (if it hasnt already).

[Mike.SR20.180sx 0]

Yeah i might go a t28 with a pfc d-jetro a fmic and prob get fuel pump and injectors.

Wonder if standard clutch will hold up??

dude if u want 200 do this and only this

 

t28 ball bearing turbo

s15 injectors

walbro gs341/bosch 040 fuel pump

power fc ecu

z32 afm

 

its not a probably with the fuel pump and injectors, its a must. do them before u do nething else. if ur car doesnt get sufficient fuel, BOOM. plus ur stock fuel pump will shit its self in no time with that power (if it hasnt already).

 

Yeah i was thinking something like that, except maybe a d-jetro instead (heard they were real good). What about the standard clutch you reckon? it probably wouldn't last long with 200kw?

cheers

[Mike.SR20.180sx 0]

I had a semi heavy duty organic and i was fairly soft on it nut it lasted about 1 year after i put the bigger turbo in. just started slippin.

 

seee how ya go and if it dies, change it then.

 

Black sr

 

Yeah i was thinking of putting an exedy heavy duty in it. What you think of the cushion button clutches?

thanks

[*BoostOnTap* 1]

When my 044 pump died, i put a brand new s15 pump in..thats with 190rwkw

(i have 550cc injectors and a sard FPR)

its been fine, i was very skeptical but my tuner said the pumps brand new and it will hold it

 

although im going to upgrade it soon as i wanna retune and service

[volt_bite 1]

D-jetro costs more to tune too! I think its not really worth it unless you putting on a bigger afm than a z32 ?

[crzy_1via 53]

dude stop going by what u here and research shit. djetro and regular power fc (ljetro) are the exact same computer except one runs a map sensor (djetro) and the other an afm (ljetro) otherwise they are the same computer mate. djetro is more expensive but if you get the regular power fc then u will hvae to upgrade afm as well so comes out to the same.

[*BoostOnTap* 1]

thats why u go microtec boys

no afm needed, i have a metal pipe straight off turbo with an airfilter

no need for afm

[blacktop™ 0]

thats why u go microtec boys

no afm needed, i have a metal pipe straight off turbo with an airfilter

no need for afm

 

 

and a d-jetro will do exactly the same and its cheaper...

[crzy_1via 53]

thats why u go microtec boys

no afm needed, i have a metal pipe straight off turbo with an airfilter

no need for afm

ok then, and whats the upsides to having no afm?

[*BoostOnTap* 1]

how should i know?

 

i got my microtech for really cheap thats the upside for me

no need to by a z32 afm i guess?? save $300

[Hijacker... 0]

thats why u go microtec boys

no afm needed, i have a metal pipe straight off turbo with an airfilter

no need for afm

ok then, and whats the upsides to having no afm?

 

Not a lot really LOL

 

I will eliminate reversion though but thats about it.

[crzy_1via 53]

how should i know?

 

i got my microtech for really cheap thats the upside for me

no need to by a z32 afm i guess?? save $300

brand new pfc L-Jetro=900 bux

brand new bosch z32 afm= 250 bux

total= 1150

 

brand new microtech i believe is around the 1800 mark. so really u didnt save nething.

 

thats why u go microtec boys

no afm needed, i have a metal pipe straight off turbo with an airfilter

no need for afm

ok then, and whats the upsides to having no afm?

 

Not a lot really LOL

 

I will eliminate reversion though but thats about it.

preciesely my point lol. alot of people that say oh yay i eliminated the afm. and all i can help but think is, and....?

 

and relocating afm to throttle body cooler piping will take care of that reversion.

[Hijacker... 0]

Just how reliable is the relocation of a Z32 to the cold pipe just before the AFM?

 

Heat and pressure has what affect on them longterm?

[Jarryd F 0]

Just how reliable is the relocation of a Z32 to the cold pipe just before the AFM?

 

Heat and pressure has what affect on them longterm?

by afm you mean throttle body right I'm running mine there and its been pretty good. Keeping in mind i had it tuned with it in the cold pipe. if you just relocate it there before the tune you might get some strange problems.

 

All you need to crack 200kw is the usual stuff like, exhaust, front mount, s15 injectors, z32, t28bb and some sort of cams will easily see you over 200rwkw.