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My theory of creation? I have not posted what i beleive, so how did you make the assumption?

 

You didn't reply to my type 2 diabetes comment?

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But you are willing to put your faith in a mythical god that no-one has ever seen, heard or touched?

of course not, that would be foolish.

 

i will put my faith in a god which has given evidence of its existence, one which has been heard by prophets.

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i will put my faith in a god which has given evidence of its existence, one which has been heard by prophets.

 

Wheres the evidence?

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just some points on the bible.

 

it was written over 1500yrs 1490BCE - 96AD

over 40 generations

over 40 authors from all walks of life , kings, peasants, fisherman, scholars, poets

was written n different places (eg - wilderness, dungeons, palaces)

at different times (eg - war, peace)

in different moods (eg- heights of joy, depths of despair)

on three continents (Asia, Africa, and Europe)

in three languages (Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek)

 

translated into over 1200 languages and dialects

 

was the first book ever printed

 

The Bible is not a science book, yet it is scientifically accurate. on Facts not theories

 

on the point of creation and people taking a day as a literal 24hour day.

The original hebrew word "Beyowm" which is used in genesis to specify a day of creation. the word represents an undefined space or period of time.

If you look at the decay rate of argon, which is present in rocks you will find that the earth is roughly 4 billion years old. Which does not work out well with a day that lasts only 24 hours. But it fits perfectly with the word "Beyowm". A day, which the Bible is telling us, represents a given space or period of time.

 

one more point. In the Book of Daniel daniel wrote down in a prophecy the 7 world powers of which most had not yet arisen. and wrote them in there order in which they would appear, i wont go into to much detail but essentialy was a dream about a giant statue made of different mateirals. there is much more to the prophecy which gives lots of hints as to what each empire was.

 

1. The gold head - Babylon

2. The silver breast and arms - Medo-Persia empire

3. The copper belly and thighs - GreeK empire

4. The iron legs - Rome and later, its political descendant, the Anglo-American World Power

5. The feet partly of iron and partly of molded clay - All earthly governments during the time of end that are unitedly,opposed to the Messianic Kingdom established in the heavens. This is the final state of human rule.

 

Book of daniel was written in approx 562BCE

 

this is most likely going to cause more controversy but its whats there and its fact.

 

 

edit: evidence of gods existance is through his design of creation and how the world and universe works.

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edit: evidence of gods existance is through his design of creation and how the world and universe works.

 

How did he create the universe? Almost all of this "evidence", can be explained by scientific laws and theories.

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edit: evidence of gods existance is through his design of creation and how the world and universe works.

 

How did he create the universe? Almost all of this "evidence", can be explained by scientific laws and theories.

 

Science does not disprove god you say it does because we have theories.well what is to say we are not simply looking at gods handy work.

 

What was before god? What was before the big bang... Maybe the big bang was created by god.

 

I can't prove anything and neither can you...

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evidence of gods existance is through his design of creation and how the world and universe works.

 

Rolled Cambers may have some competition here. The stupidity is strong in this one.

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I can't prove anything and neither can you...

 

God damn internet, that's not how i meant it lol.

 

Oh well.

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edit: evidence of gods existance is through his design of creation and how the world and universe works.

 

How did he create the universe?

using CAD.

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Who created autodesk?

 

How long will your attempts to prove a point continue?

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Who created autodesk?

A few virgins in their mums basement.

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Oh for f u c k s sakes someone lock this thread

IMO any thread started about religion should result in auto ban

 

No one is gonna convince anyone different to what they believe. Ppl get worked up, ppl get offended.

Enough

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isnt it possible god created the big bang.. both science + religeon could just get along... *cough*

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The thread wasn't created for arguements , it was just simply to see what people believed in

 

Oh for f u c k s sakes someone lock this thread

IMO any thread started about religion should result in auto ban

 

No one is gonna convince anyone different to what they believe. Ppl get worked up, ppl get offended.

Enough

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My theory of creation? I have not posted what i beleive, so how did you make the assumption?

 

You didn't reply to my type 2 diabetes comment?

 

Diabetes, or insulin resistant genes can be turned off it depends on the food you eat... People do not understand this however. If you have a predisposition to something it will only manifest if the right environment is present for the condition. I have seen pancreas beta cells recover and type 1 diabetics off insulin. People just need to control the shit they put in there mouth.

 

But that isnt what this topic is about.

 

The new field of "epigenetics" is rapidly revealing how people, plants and animals do start with a certain genetic code at conception. But the choice of which genes are "expressed," or activated, is strongly affected by environmental influences. The expression of genes can change rapidly over time, they can be influenced by external factors, those changes can be passed along to offspring, and they can literally hold the key to life and death.

 

Reference.

 

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2010-04/osu-co042810.php

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I have no "theory" of creation. All I know is what's knowable through factual evidence. At some point in history (which can be calculated reasonably precisely to be around 13 billion years ago) the universe was very small, dense and hot. It's been expanding ever since. No one does (and probably never will) know what came before that.

 

Nothing there which requires faith other than faith in the basic laws of logic, and the faith that what we observe is a good representation of reality.

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one more point. In the Book of Daniel daniel wrote down in a prophecy the 7 world powers of which most had not yet arisen. and wrote them in there order in which they would appear, i wont go into to much detail but essentialy was a dream about a giant statue made of different mateirals. there is much more to the prophecy which gives lots of hints as to what each empire was.

 

1. The gold head - Babylon

2. The silver breast and arms - Medo-Persia empire

3. The copper belly and thighs - GreeK empire

4. The iron legs - Rome and later, its political descendant, the Anglo-American World Power

5. The feet partly of iron and partly of molded clay - All earthly governments during the time of end that are unitedly,opposed to the Messianic Kingdom established in the heavens. This is the final state of human rule.

 

Book of daniel was written in approx 562BCE

 

this is most likely going to cause more controversy but its whats there and its fact.

 

 

edit: evidence of gods existance is through his design of creation and how the world and universe works.

Being a prophet must be pretty damn easy. Just make a handful of statements vague enough that someone somewhere will eventually make them fit something.

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Oh for f u c k s sakes someone lock this thread

IMO any thread started about religion should result in auto ban

 

No one is gonna convince anyone different to what they believe. Ppl get worked up, ppl get offended.

Enough

why lock it. people are allowed to have dicussions about anything they want (as long as they arnt offensive).

 

threads like this allow people to have debates about issues they believe strongly in.

 

there is no problem.

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one more point. In the Book of Daniel daniel wrote down in a prophecy the 7 world powers of which most had not yet arisen. and wrote them in there order in which they would appear, i wont go into to much detail but essentialy was a dream about a giant statue made of different mateirals. there is much more to the prophecy which gives lots of hints as to what each empire was.

 

1. The gold head - Babylon

2. The silver breast and arms - Medo-Persia empire

3. The copper belly and thighs - GreeK empire

4. The iron legs - Rome and later, its political descendant, the Anglo-American World Power

5. The feet partly of iron and partly of molded clay - All earthly governments during the time of end that are unitedly,opposed to the Messianic Kingdom established in the heavens. This is the final state of human rule.

 

Book of daniel was written in approx 562BCE

 

this is most likely going to cause more controversy but its whats there and its fact.

 

 

edit: evidence of gods existance is through his design of creation and how the world and universe works.

Being a prophet must be pretty damn easy. Just make a handful of statements vague enough that someone somewhere will eventually make them fit something.

 

 

 

exactly... give me 10 minutes and a few beers and i'll have my own story, that way, 40 generations later someone can look into it and make my story fit into the history of man.

 

 

im still all for the church of the flying spaghetti monster... seriously, hes the f**king bomb diggity!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Open Letter To Kansas School Board

I am writing you with much concern after having read of your hearing to decide whether the alternative theory of Intelligent Design should be taught along with the theory of Evolution. I think we can all agree that it is important for students to hear multiple viewpoints so they can choose for themselves the theory that makes the most sense to them. I am concerned, however, that students will only hear one theory of Intelligent Design.

 

Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It was He who created all that we see and all that we feel. We feel strongly that the overwhelming scientific evidence pointing towards evolutionary processes is nothing but a coincidence, put in place by Him.

 

It is for this reason that I’m writing you today, to formally request that this alternative theory be taught in your schools, along with the other two theories. In fact, I will go so far as to say, if you do not agree to do this, we will be forced to proceed with legal action. I’m sure you see where we are coming from. If the Intelligent Design theory is not based on faith, but instead another scientific theory, as is claimed, then you must also allow our theory to be taught, as it is also based on science, not on faith.

 

Some find that hard to believe, so it may be helpful to tell you a little more about our beliefs. We have evidence that a Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe. None of us, of course, were around to see it, but we have written accounts of it. We have several lengthy volumes explaining all details of His power. Also, you may be surprised to hear that there are over 10 million of us, and growing. We tend to be very secretive, as many people claim our beliefs are not substantiated by observable evidence.

 

What these people don’t understand is that He built the world to make us think the earth is older than it really is. For example, a scientist may perform a carbon-dating process on an artifact. He finds that approximately 75% of the Carbon-14 has decayed by electron emission to Nitrogen-14, and infers that this artifact is approximately 10,000 years old, as the half-life of Carbon-14 appears to be 5,730 years. But what our scientist does not realize is that every time he makes a measurement, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is there changing the results with His Noodly Appendage. We have numerous texts that describe in detail how this can be possible and the reasons why He does this. He is of course invisible and can pass through normal matter with ease.

 

I’m sure you now realize how important it is that your students are taught this alternate theory. It is absolutely imperative that they realize that observable evidence is at the discretion of a Flying Spaghetti Monster. Furthermore, it is disrespectful to teach our beliefs without wearing His chosen outfit, which of course is full pirate regalia. I cannot stress the importance of this enough, and unfortunately cannot describe in detail why this must be done as I fear this letter is already becoming too long. The concise explanation is that He becomes angry if we don’t.

 

You may be interested to know that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of Pirates since the 1800s. For your interest, I have included a graph of the approximate number of pirates versus the average global temperature over the last 200 years. As you can see, there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature.

 

 

 

PiratesVsTemp.png

 

In conclusion, thank you for taking the time to hear our views and beliefs. I hope I was able to convey the importance of teaching this theory to your students. We will of course be able to train the teachers in this alternate theory. I am eagerly awaiting your response, and hope dearly that no legal action will need to be taken. I think we can all look forward to the time when these three theories are given equal time in our science classrooms across the country, and eventually the world; One third time for Intelligent Design, one third time for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism (Pastafarianism), and one third time for logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence.

 

Sincerely Yours,

 

Bobby Henderson, concerned citizen.

 

P.S. I have included an artistic drawing of Him creating a mountain, trees, and a midget. Remember, we are all His creatures.

 

 

 

 

fsmdrawing.jpg

 

 

 

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Catholic. Why? Italian heritage. I was born and raised a Catholic. Had every ceremony (first communion, confirmation, baptism etc) except marriage.

 

I don't go to church except for the occasional midnight mass or Easter mass. I don't practice it as often as I should; and don't believe in alot of it (neither does my Nonna). Catholics aren't meant to use things like contraception, meant to get married etc. That's wrong.

 

Just because I don't go to church as much as other parishioners; it does not make me any less of a catholic than they are.

 

But each to their own.

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im so non religous i wouldnt even class myself as an atheist , so cant be f**ked believing in anything like that.

wastes time , when i could be out sliding , drinking or drinking.

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many moons ago god fapped to a scene girls thread and 5 billion years later we have come full circle.

 

the end.

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im so non religous i wouldnt even class myself as an atheist

u just classed urself as an idiot for making such a stupid statement.

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im so non religous i wouldnt even class myself as an atheist

u just classed urself as an idiot for making such a stupid statement.

 

Not really. An atheist believes there is no god. That's still a belief based on a faith that god doesn't exist.

To truly be non-religious means you're agnostic: You're open minded until proof in either direction is put in front of you. That's what I am. Based on how huge and amazing space is, and how little we actually know about the world around us, I'm open to pretty much anything being possible. Of course, I see some things as less likely to be true than others, but I'll listen and pay attention to anyone's views on the unexplainable. I might argue a point against them, but I wouldn't hold my opinion as more "correct" than anyone else's.

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