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Ignore the France healthcare system... if you can't pay for it your closest family member does whether they like it or not.

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Probably why we aren't in the shitter like America

 

no.. we dont owe 14.8 trillion

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their debt has now reached parity with their entire GDP for 1 year.

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America's health care system is just awful... so really glad australia stuck with the "rest-of-the-world" model and socialised healthcare like the libraries, police force, firebrigade etc... cos some things need to be free and just work for everyone.

 

America needs to be decoupled as the world reserve currency... once that happens and the shit really starts to fall... i'm going in to do my bit. I'm gonna get... i dunno. something. how much are ferrari conversions these days from lhd to rhd? :lol:

Australia is just as bad back in france and canada I was watching a doco and they get FREE healthcare and callouts and max they pay for meds is like $2 so we still got it shit here

 

move to the US and you will see how good we have it, we are light years ahead of the US when it come to heath care and gun control.

Heaps of ppl from the sates skip the boarder to canada for cheap/free health cover

 

AND don't forget Cuba!!! For a relatively poor country you get free health, free education etc. Hence why a lot of Eastern seaboard Americans jump on a boat and try bring back suitcases of meds. Most get busted by Customs but still, it's like the Prohibition era, there are people who will bring it over for you, charge you more, yet it's still cheaper than going into your local hospital and getting it through them.

 

their debt has now reached parity with their entire GDP for 1 year.

 

Yep USA is officially looking OVER the 'edge' of financial ruin.... And oh how deep of a hole it is!

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forget about used cars, If you want to compare and for it to be a genuine look at how prices vary look at new cars.

 

While I do agree new cars are better for comparision, the 2nd hand market has its value as well. In some counties used cars are less common, or more common raising or lowering their price due to a difference in supply and demand. For instance, most people here will drive a car to over 100,000 miles (160,934 kilometers). I'm willing to bet the depreciation on a car with this many miles would be much more in Australia than the States.

 

Eg my mate bought a brand new Mk5 golf GTI top spec and paid close to 50k for it.

 

Over in the states the same car could be had for around the 28k brand new mark.

 

There are however 2 things you must all remember.

 

1. Most of these car makers, especially Euro car makers, really want to bite into the american car market which is huge over there, They need to have the cars selling at a cheaper price just to get sales and compete with american junk. The market is so big they can afford to do so also.

Agreed... Our cars suck. :(

 

2. You have to remember that they get paid ALOT less than we do for the same amount of work. Hence everything is cheaper. For instance, in my industry the average wage is about $35p/h. I looked at jobs in the same industry in the US and the average pay is only about $15 p/h.

 

Out of curiosity what line of work are you in? Yes our cost of living is lower, but there's also a difference in industries over here. We don't do too much raw mineral deals, where you guys do tons. Therefore someone in that industry should make more there than here even if the cost of livings the same. I'm in finance, and looking to move to Sydney. I live in Colorado now. Yes I'd get paid more in Sydney, but not much. But I'd get paid A LOT more in New York.

 

They get paid alot less than we do, I was spun out when i was comparing house prices in sydney's west (middle class) and the USA. For eg average house price here 4 bedroom out west is creeping 600k now days.

What website are you using to look? California MUCH MUCH higher real estate cost than Denver, and the condo's here go for $250,000 to $300,000 for a decent one bedroom.

Kinda vise-versa- I was using www.realestate.com.au to look for places out there and saw some OK looking places for $450,000 in CBD. But of course, I have no idea if it's a crap building or anything. We have HOA fees that kill you in condo's. These fees can be an extra $300 a month even if you own it free and clear, plus taxes. Not sure if you guys are the same.

Now sure i dont really know area's in the US and if they are "bad" or "good" but i spent about 8 hours one night ( i was a bored mofo) and randomly chose california, went to costal city's like LA etc and was on google maps looking at suburbs, punched in suburbs and had a look, from what i saw, for something that would be 600k here could be had for about 190k in LA. Like i said i cant judge suburbs and if they were low income or middle class area's but i went all over LA and did the same thing and that was about the median home price for something simmilar to here that costs 600k.

 

If you're SUPER bored, feel free to PM me and maybe I can help :)

Obviously I need more info on Oz before trekking down there.

Then i went and looked at what 600k US would get, and LOL.... mansion much?

 

Edited by BaRNeZiLLa

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So.. Australia f**ks us in the ass with this via the use of the 15 year rule right???

 

Otherwise I'd be saving for an M3 right now..

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