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How does a Quad go in comparison to flying a normal chopper? Like im confident in flying the single after i spent a few hours on it

Just dont want to fork out 200clams and then put the thing into the earth at rocketing speeds!

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I bought an Estes Proto-X quad (the worlds smallest) and it is a f**king blast to fly around.

 

may end up getting the blade nano QX for outdoor fun as it is way better to fly than my cheap single heli.

 

The only learning curve with quads is getting used to not having a distinct front/rear. blade coloring and LED lights can help that though.

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Ordered myself one of these on the weekend:

http://hobbyking.com...idProduct=38124

 

Been having trouble keeping my big quad in the air because i can't keep track of which direction i am facing. I am hoping this little unit will help me practice.

 

After reading this and checking it out for myself I have also ordered one :D I figured its probably the cheapest and learner friendly way to get into FPV basics. Cheers. Cant wait for it to arrive!

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how did you go getting the FPV stuff together?

 

I got the 900mh gear working ok, but i need to replace some motor mounts on my quad after i put it into the dirt hard. The motors are too off balanced on the damaged mounts and the camera vibrates too much to use.

I also need a stack of practice in 3rd person flying, which i hope my mini quad will help me with.

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get a quad with LEDS on the front.

 

thats also why they have colored blades on the front - for orientation.

 

its a bit of a headf**k but once you get the hang of it you can zip around easy as.

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looks what just arrived! Im now one of you! Well once I work out how to fly it anyway. Ignore the water squirt thing I just photographed the wrong side of the box :/

 

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Before you fly it, get a hot glue gun and seal the connection that the camera antenna has to the pc board. Mine broke off just from handling it and light bending.

 

I have pulled the camera off mine and it performs so much better without it. The antenna gave a shitty range anyway.

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Ok Ill give that a go. Ive already crashed it about 1000 times today and last night trying to fly the thing but ive just been doing it in my living room to get a feel for it. I can say that I am not a natural at this lol. I can get it to hover ok but generally as soon as I try navigate anywhere with it I instantly loose control of it and either crash it into something or it flies under the couch resulting in bulk spider webs and dog hair getting tangled under the blades.

 

I find it hard to keep it at a steady height with out it either always climbing or descending rapidly. It seems to hit the ground then bounce up again and then hit the ground again when I try to move it in a direction. Not sure if thats just inexperience ( i have none ) or is there something in the setup to make it easier? It is in stability mode with the red led.

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Most people start off just learning to hover - tail in. That means the front faces directly away from you. When you can consistently hover like that practice either rolling left and right and the forward and backwards. When you are doing this practice making sure the nose is always facing directly away from you. You need to train your mind and muscles so that flying becomes a reaction rather than a thinking process. Once you can tail in fly then start doing figure 8's and then practice nose in.

 

To be honest i still can't fly nose in well at all.

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I Can still only fly it tail in at the moment, but i am pretty comfortable getting my mini quad to fly around 150-200m away from me. I just zoom it off in the distance till it is just a little black speck, then i pull the stick back till it shoots upwards, ease the throttle down to reduce the climb and wait till it is close enough to me to see the motors again :lol:

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the biggest help I find with drones is remembering to only make small inputs, and that when moving in a direction, you will continue to move in that direction even when you stop pushing the stick. faster movement/more stick = heavier counter movement.

 

Also, you dive when moving as the blades slow down rather than speed up. so a little throttle to compensate is usually a good idea.

 

Whats the best way to practice banked turns? I can nail them occasionally but sometimes end up doing more of a pivot than a wide arc.

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Cheers for the advice guys. I managed to destroy the chassis yesterday when I was doing some outdoor practice so Ill have to wait for a new one to arrive. Fortunately they cost f**k all so Ive ordered a few spares.

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Cheers for the advice guys. I managed to destroy the chassis yesterday when I was doing some outdoor practice so Ill have to wait for a new one to arrive. Fortunately they cost f**k all so Ive ordered a few spares.

 

That's quite an achievement!

I have put mine into the ground at full speed several times and the worst I did was bend a rotor that was easily bent back into place.

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yeah haha I totally wrote it off. I super glued it back together in about 5 different spots! It held up for a little while but then I crashed it again and broke where all the super glue was. Ive also lost 2 of the rubber feet off the motors. Once I get it back Im going to take it to an oval to fly instead of inside or over hard ground like I had been doing. Also ordered a mini cp skid set for it to see if it will soften the landings a bit. No doubt Ill wreck that as well though lol.

 

After I glued it back together today I mucked around with the dual rate settings and managed to make it a fair bit more controllable. I navigated through part of the house without crashing for about 2 minutes so I was pretty stoked with that effort.

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I find it is hard to keep still in small spaces, but it is remarkably agile in open air.

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I've been putting a new rig together. Hoping to FPV it soon - maybe next week. At this stage I'm waiting for a bluetooth adapter to tune it properly.

 

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i have upgraded to a Q450v3 frame. I bought the turnigy SK450 RTF on hobbyking and broke an arm on my second flight. bought the Q450 frame as I couldnt find spares for the SK450 and its a much better frame IMO. feels more rigid, less weight, and has room for cameras and bigger batteries.

 

is fatshark the way to go or is there any other suitable options?

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I bought the Fatsharks when they were the only real option. The glasses are one of the most expensive purchases so buying a few different types to try is out of my budget.

 

Try the following.

 

 

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What I dont know is what I need to put on my quadrotor to get video transmission.

 

I am assuming I need a video TX, some kind of video RX hooked up to goggles/display.

 

do i need anything else, like batteries for the V-tx?

 

is there a kit I can just buy and bolt on and get flying?

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Are you running a 3s or 4s battery? Either way I run a separate battery for the video system. I'm sure you can get systems ready to go but its not that hard to put one together. If I had my time again I'd get a Mobius action cam with a wide angle lens. Then the AV cable to go with it (backorder at HK atm) and then a lawmate TX/RX with cloverleaf antennas. It can all be bought on Hobbyking now.3

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ah cool. the lawmate hooks up to fat sharks/similar?

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Yeah. I'll take a pic of my stuff when I get a chance and post it for you.

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Thanks man. I reckon itll be mad flying through trees and shit in first person view. not sure if I want to do it with the 450 or if i should invest in a 250. the 450 just seems like its too big to be heaps nimble.

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3rd person vid of the hex. Shouldn't be far off FPV'ing it.

 

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Put a quad together as well. Will try and put FPV on it tomorrow if I have time. Might be too quick.

 

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At long last - an FPV vid

 

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Great videos.

 

Mind listing your FPV quad build specs?

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Yeah thats fine.

 

Frame but without the crab legs - http://www.hobbyking...Warehouse_.html

 

Motors - http://www.hobbyking...Warehouse_.html

 

Props - http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__54415__10_x_5_Thin_Style_E_Prop_Black_Counterclockwise_Rotation_2pc_AU_Warehouse_.html

and - http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=54414

 

ESC's - 4s capable - http://www.hobbyking...Warehouse_.html

or

ESC - 6s capable (crazy) - http://www.hobbyking...Warehouse_.html

 

Battery Strap - http://www.hobbyking...Warehouse_.html

 

Power Distro board - http://www.hobbyking...Warehouse_.html

 

Battery - http://www.hobbyking...Warehouse_.html

 

Flight Controller - http://boltrc.com/in...&product_id=605

 

Transmitter - I am using an expensive one but its up to you - http://www.hobbyking...Warehouse_.html

 

LRS - http://www.rangepilo...i8mfrvvhd4mhtb0

 

 

 

Video Receiver - http://www.hobbyking...V_Receiver.html

 

Video transmitter - http://www.hobbyking...ter_Module.html

 

Video antennas - http://www.hobbyking...a_SMA_Set_.html

 

GoPro adapter - http://www.hobbyking...ad_For_FPV.html

 

Goggles - something like this - http://www.hobbyking...nd_5_8G_TX.html

 

GoPro is the video source.

 

Obviously there are connectors and heat shrink etc etc as well.

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That should be most of it

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