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FUD machine in full effect

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for those few that don't know, FUD = fear, uncertainty and doubt, a common political/PR/sales tactic involving putting out false or misleading information to induce fear, uncertainty and doubt into the minds of the public in order to sell a product/policy or idea.

 

It seems that the government FUD machine is in full effect lately, ever since the government opened submissions from the public in regards to their new data retention plan and then received an overwhelmingly negative response, the governments PR teams have been in overdrive pumping out every story they can on how the internet is a dangerous, unregulated and crime fueled place. Everything from Islamic extremists using the social media to organize riots, to rowdy teens organizing out of control parties, trolls being mean to celebrities to pedophiles using twitter to distribute child porn.

 

They are waging a massive campaign to get the great unwashed masses to support things like data retention,

new laws against on-line anonymity and even increased police powers to persecute people for "organizing an out-of-control gathering an offence".

(http://www.news.com.au/national/organisers-of-out-of-control-parties-could-face-jail-time-under-new-laws/story-fndo4e3y-1226481181361)

 

Most of you on here are probably already aware of this, the reason I am posting this is just to encourage people to let others who might not be so aware, whats really going on and whats really at stake.

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As a protest I'd set up my email to send myself ~500 zip bombs a day called 'kiddy porn.zip'

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Bring it on....

 

I'm hiding behind 7 proxies hahahahahaha!!!

 

seriously... this will never happen its going to be a logistical nightmare anyway... :lol:

 

the government wont have the resources or the money to do such a thing... and even if they did, the supposed watchlist that ASIO, AFP and local law enforcement have will consist of 99.99% of internet users in Australia anyway... GG Australian Government...

 

was hearing about something that the NSW police force wants powers to compel people to talk during police interviews as well... waiving the right to remain silent... I got to admit something smells funny... f**k you Australian Politics!

 

as for the news article... there goes the right to protest...

Edited by level_100%_warned

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Bring it on....

 

I'm hiding behind 7 proxies hahahahahaha!!!

 

seriously... this will never happen its going to be a logistical nightmare anyway... :lol:

 

the government wont have the resources or the money to do such a thing... and even if they did, the supposed watchlist that ASIO, AFP and local law enforcement have will consist of 99.99% of internet users in Australia anyway... GG Australian Government...

 

was hearing about something that the NSW police force wants powers to compel people to talk during police interviews as well... waiving the right to remain silent... I got to admit something smells funny... f**k you Australian Politics!

 

as for the news article... there goes the right to protest...

 

I just wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard something along the lines "it'll never happen", only to have them turn around a several months or years later when it does happen and then start whinging "aww, they can't do that, this is bullshit!"

 

It won't happen??? A similar proposal is set to be implemented in the UK!

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I don’t know how many of you old enough to remember the 80’s or the 90’s and remember what it was like back then, and seen the slow and gradual decline from what was once a relatively free country to becoming a nanny state and now well on its way to becoming a full blown police state. Or the mainstream media going from what was a relatively trustworthy source of information to the highly Americanised tool of social engineering it is today (sure there was corruption and dishonesty back then but nothing like it is now). Back then we used to laugh at the idea of things that are considered common place now. We all use to say it’ll never happen. Well we’re eating our words now.

 

As someone who’s been around long enough to see over three decades of change (largely for the worse), believe me when I say it CAN and WILL happen. I’m sure most of the older members will agree with me because they have seen it happen for themselves too many times in the past.

 

And make no mistake, there are many very powerful, wealthy and influential people and organizations who have a vested interest in seeing the internet become heavily censored and regulated. Many groups like political parties, religious institutions and large corporations (particularly in content distribution and retail) view the internet as public enemy number one. They view the free flow of information and ideas and the opportunities that the net creates for a new breed of small innovative entrepreneurs as a huge threat to their empires. And they’re not going to go down without a fight. They are going to throw every resource they have at trying to control the net.

 

And remember politics is a marathon, not a sprint!

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Bring it on....

 

I'm hiding behind 7 proxies hahahahahaha!!!

 

seriously... this will never happen its going to be a logistical nightmare anyway... laugh.png

 

the government wont have the resources or the money to do such a thing... and even if they did, the supposed watchlist that ASIO, AFP and local law enforcement have will consist of 99.99% of internet users in Australia anyway... GG Australian Government...

 

was hearing about something that the NSW police force wants powers to compel people to talk during police interviews as well... waiving the right to remain silent... I got to admit something smells funny... f**k you Australian Politics!

 

as for the news article... there goes the right to protest...

 

I just wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard something along the lines "it'll never happen", only to have them turn around a several months or years later when it does happen and then start whinging "aww, they can't do that, this is bullshit!"

 

It won't happen??? A similar proposal is set to be implemented in the UK!

 

The UK already has voluntary agreements with carrier providers to log all of the information that has been proposed in our data retention policies. They've been doing it for awhile now.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_data_retention#United_Kingdom

 

They already collect and store subscriber information, email metadata and web browsing metadata. Its not just for authoritarian governments anymore, western republics and democratic governments are jumping on this bandwagon. It will happen.

 

level_100%_warned really money? Read the policy. The policy does not have any federal infrastructure, it is up to the carriage provider to buy and implement the system. And should they not have the system setup to the governments requirements they will be stung with a fine. Setting up this infrastructure isn't cheap, let alone the systems to search the data and produce meaningful information is a huge undertaking - carrier providers cannot just hand over big storage banks, they have to pull out the information as per what the warrant granted by a judge is asking for. The agency requesting information doesn't have to do a thing but prove their case to a judge to get the warrant, its all on the carrier to provide the info.

 

On this note, the other thing that is of worry is that even though the proposed policy sets down a minimum amount of penalty units (3 years~) to grant one of these warrants, the policy explicitly states that they are to be enabled to provide this information to other government agencies that are NOT law enforcement. Oh and of course the policy states that the government would like to extend this from not only carrier providers, but other network providers. Where does it end? Does MacDonalds need to do this, they provide free wireless from their restaurants and are technically providing a carriage service to the internet? University internet connections? These kinds of networks cannot afford to build these types of storage systems, let alone retain the data securely, keep the needed staff to maintain it or ensure that the data is managed by appropriately individuals ie not convicted fraudsters.

 

I dont know about most of the general public, but having all of my history of the places I buy things online, my emails, my personal information, my payment details and my browsing behavior in one place is slightly concerning. Its a f**king goldmine for hackers who would like run decent phishing or malware infection campaigns, or just straight up steal the data and sell it / use it to commit fraud and take out loans or credit cards under other individuals names. Its already been proven by AAPT that they cannot secure the information they keep on customers from hackers, so I cant see it being a good idea to make them store more.

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