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Do you think gay marriage should be "legalised"?

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I am in the yes category, unless you live under a rock you would know that sexual preference is not a choice, not letting gay people get married is like not letting blonde haired people get married. It also hurts noone except bigots with a 1st century beleif system.

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Get married to your boyfriend already liam

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Poll?

 

I honestly don't fathom how people can oppose the union of two others in a loving and comitted relationship. So what if they're attracted to the same sex? What are people's grounds for rejecting the notion of gay marriage?

 

I don't have any issues with it at all. Look at how much public outcry there has been by the gay community about this, they must really want to get married. Perhaps so much so that they'll respect the notion of marriage by getting married for the right reasons and staying married because they're committed to one another. How amusing would that be? Gay couples respecting the notion of marriage moreso than hetero couples who just abuse it no end and marry for all the wrong reasons...

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I was going to put a poll in, but i think the conversation would benefit more by people stating yes or no and reasons why in a post.

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Doesn't bother me at all if the laws change and they are allowed to get married, but to me and in my mind, marriage will always be between a man and a woman.

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It's pretty much inevitable at this point. We can either be tards are not do it now, or we can wait until the later generations die off in 10-20 years and the younger ones get in power and it gets through. Unless we see a huge rise in conservative ideology (and I hope to f**k we don't), it is inevitable.

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Yes absolutely, there is absolutely no logical justification for banning it and in the interests of trying to preserve one of the pillars of modern democratic society (i.e. the right to choose how you live so long as you aren't harming someone else or infringing on there liberties) from fascism, it's in our best interests to see it legalized and our law makers held to a higher standard.

 

It's not just a gay issue, it's a civil rights issue, and as such it affects all of us as it sets a precedent for how we operate as a society.

 

so even if people think it's wrong or disgusting, weather your gay, straight, bi curious or have a strange fetish for Japanese love pillows???

 

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people really should support the basic freedoms that would allow them to get married.

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f**k yes I think a lot of gay couples will respect the privilege a whole lot more.

 

On a side note they also should be allowed to adopt

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Doesn't bother me at all if the laws change and they are allowed to get married, but to me and in my mind, marriage will always be between a man and a woman.

 

Not attacking your opinion or anything, just curious to know how people come to their conclusions, why do you say "in my mind, marriage will always be between a man and a woman"? Any particular reason?

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All arguements against it are pretty trivial in today's society.

 

I'm for it.

 

If two people want to get married, they should be able to. I don't care what gender they are. If they're committed and devoted to eachother, then why should anyone have the right to stop them?

 

Marriage isn't about gender. It's about companionship.

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Doesn't bother me at all if the laws change and they are allowed to get married, but to me and in my mind, marriage will always be between a man and a woman.

 

Not attacking your opinion or anything, just curious to know how people come to their conclusions, why do you say "in my mind, marriage will always be between a man and a woman"? Any particular reason?

 

THIS.

 

Why should it be? The only people that say it HAS to be, are the Government.

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doesnt affect or bother me in anyway

i dont care if it's legalized or not, it has nothing to do with me. which makes me question all the people getting bitchy about it becoming legalized...it doesnt affect them at all so why do they care so much?

 

also, people who go on about it being a religious constitution between a man and woman annoy me. marriage is a social act separate from religion for two people to be legally joint, not religiously.

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doesnt affect or bother me in anyway

i dont care if it's legalized or not, it has nothing to do with me. which makes me question all the people getting bitchy about it becoming legalized...it doesnt affect them at all so why do they care so much?

 

also, people who go on about it being a religious constitution between a man and woman annoy me. marriage is a social act separate from religion for two people to be legally joint, not religiously.

 

As I mentioned just a few posts above (people are so good at reading before commenting), for me it's a civil rights issue. Denying them the right to get married sets a precedent for fascism, and for a small select few people in positions of power and influence to dictate how people should live, largely based merely on personal prejudice's. We as a society should not stand for that.

 

Further more, it probably does effect many members on hear personally. We have several members on here that are openly homosexual. And I'm sure there would be many more who while they may not be gay themselves may have friends or family members who are, and so effects them that way.

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doesnt affect or bother me in anyway

i dont care if it's legalized or not, it has nothing to do with me. which makes me question all the people getting bitchy about it becoming legalized...it doesnt affect them at all so why do they care so much?

 

also, people who go on about it being a religious constitution between a man and woman annoy me. marriage is a social act separate from religion for two people to be legally joint, not religiously.

 

As I mentioned just a few posts above (people are so good at reading before commenting), for me it's a civil rights issue. Denying them the right to get married sets a precedent for fascism, and for a small select few people in positions of power and influence to dictate how people should live, largely based merely on personal prejudice's. We as a society should not stand for that.

 

Further more, it probably does effect many members on hear personally. We've have several members on here that are openly homosexual. And I'm sure there would be many more who while they may not be gay themselves may have friends or family members who are, and so effects them that way.

 

i should have worded that better. i was referring to people who aren't gay and get all worked up about it. i just ask them "if gay people get married, how will it change your life in any way?"

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doesnt affect or bother me in anyway

i dont care if it's legalized or not, it has nothing to do with me. which makes me question all the people getting bitchy about it becoming legalized...it doesnt affect them at all so why do they care so much?

 

also, people who go on about it being a religious constitution between a man and woman annoy me. marriage is a social act separate from religion for two people to be legally joint, not religiously.

 

As I mentioned just a few posts above (people are so good at reading before commenting), for me it's a civil rights issue. Denying them the right to get married sets a precedent for fascism, and for a small select few people in positions of power and influence to dictate how people should live, largely based merely on personal prejudice's. We as a society should not stand for that.

 

Further more, it probably does effect many members on hear personally. We've have several members on here that are openly homosexual. And I'm sure there would be many more who while they may not be gay themselves may have friends or family members who are, and so effects them that way.

 

i should have worded that better. i was referring to people who aren't gay and get all worked up about it. i just ask them "if gay people get married, how will it change your life in any way?"

 

And my answer would be the same, we should not be letting governments and their puppet masters dictate how people live. If they are going to take away someones rights and freedoms then they better have a bloody good reason, a reason based on facts and evidence, not personal prejudice.

 

First they came for the Communists

And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists

And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists

And I did not speak out

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This is why we should care.

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You should go protest then.

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doesnt affect or bother me in anyway

i dont care if it's legalized or not, it has nothing to do with me. which makes me question all the people getting bitchy about it becoming legalized...it doesnt affect them at all so why do they care so much?

 

also, people who go on about it being a religious constitution between a man and woman annoy me. marriage is a social act separate from religion for two people to be legally joint, not religiously.

 

As I mentioned just a few posts above (people are so good at reading before commenting), for me it's a civil rights issue. Denying them the right to get married sets a precedent for fascism, and for a small select few people in positions of power and influence to dictate how people should live, largely based merely on personal prejudice's. We as a society should not stand for that.

 

Further more, it probably does effect many members on hear personally. We've have several members on here that are openly homosexual. And I'm sure there would be many more who while they may not be gay themselves may have friends or family members who are, and so effects them that way.

 

i should have worded that better. i was referring to people who aren't gay and get all worked up about it. i just ask them "if gay people get married, how will it change your life in any way?"

 

And my answer would be the same, we should not be letting governments and their puppet masters dictate how people live. If they are going to take away someones rights and freedoms then they better have a bloody good reason, a reason based on facts and evidence, not personal prejudice.

 

 

it's not that the "government" doesnt want it to happen, it's nearly the entire baby boomer generation as they grew up in a different time, which just so happens to be the generation currently in parliament.

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You should go protest then.

protesting is for chumps, you'll never affect any real change that way.

 

it's not that the "government" doesnt want it to happen, it's nearly the entire baby boomer generation as they grew up in a different time, which just so happens to be the generation currently in parliament.

 

Funny, most public opinion polls seem to show the majority of the public support it.

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end of the day, i understand if churches don't want to be a part of it, and appreciate that it's origin comes from religion, but now it's a legal issue, and what happened to separating church and state, so why we have a legal objection the marriage of 2 people of the same sex, is in my eyes the same as saying it's illegal to be in a relationship, which is retarded.

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I am a firm believer that religion has no place in politics and the opposition to gay marriage is entirely motivated by religion.

 

Gay marriage affects nobody, so anybody who opposes it is a selfish cruel c.unt, plain and simple.

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I think Sapient from Debaser said it the best:

 

"Who cares if two gays wanna tie the knot...

if you aint gay why does this preoccupy ya thoughts?

Is it 'coz you harbour faggot tendancies?

Or 'coz you're a product of mass assembly grown in a lab geneticaly?"

 

Personally I'm neither supportive nor against it, that being said I don't believe in the idea of marriage in general.

In my opinion it's a piece of paper and an expensive day.

That being said, no matter the sexual orientation, people who want to get married should have the right to do so.

 

2000 f*cking years later and the majority are still praising the pages and ideals of an ancient publication.

Rather pathetic.

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Yes. I believe gays should be allowed to marry. Contrary to what the fundies say, it doesn't cheapen my marriage. It doesn't affect my marriage one iota. But to approach this from another angle, if the government can tax gay couples as a couple, then they can f**king well marry them too.

 

this is why I can't understand how we've got this far without legalised gay marriage. what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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I've got a number of gay friends. You wouldn't pick them at all, they're just one of the guys, except they like guys. No biggie. The problem they raise is the general public who opposes gay marriage doesn't see them when they're talking about gay marriage, rather the stereotypical effeminate emaciated gay guy that prances on a podium during madi gras, flitting between relationships. They even go to the point of paying out these guys.

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Doesn't bother me at all if the laws change and they are allowed to get married, but to me and in my mind, marriage will always be between a man and a woman.

 

Let me just turn the clock back 50 years.

 

"marriage will always be between a white man and a white woman or a black man and a black woman"

 

 

 

end of the day, i understand if churches don't want to be a part of it, and appreciate that it's origin comes from religion

 

That's actually not true. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage

 

Marriage was more about the family, the tribe, and the rights of offspring in the beginning, rather than religion.

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Wanda Sykes has a great saying.

 

' if you don't believe in same sex marriage, don't get married to someone of the same sex'

 

There are no justifiable reasons why same sex marriage cannot happen, straight people have all but 'eardrum raped' the sanctity of marriage, especially within the last two decades..

 

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Doesn't bother me at all if the laws change and they are allowed to get married, but to me and in my mind, marriage will always be between a man and a woman.

 

Let me just turn the clock back 50 years.

 

"marriage will always be between a white man and a white woman or a black man and a black woman"

 

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Let them sign some stupid document to say they'll stick with the same person for an unnaturally long time, makes no difference to me.

 

I just can't predict how their kids (adopted or otherwise) will adapt to society... I mean of course they will, but it will surely create a new brand of headcase.

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