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http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/new-first-strike-law-to-seize-hoons-cars/story-e6frfkp9-1226579478028

 

HOLY SHIT!!!! Sucks to be in WA.

 

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WA'S worst hoons will have their cars taken off them for good on their first strike under tough new penalties promised by Premier Colin Barnett if his Government is re-elected.

Mr Barnett will announce the proposed changes today as part of an election commitment to crack down on hoons who hold suburban streets to ransom.

 

Meanwhile, trail-bike riders will also lose their vehicles for good if they are caught riding them unlicensed on the road.

 

Under Mr Barnett's plan:

 

* Hoon drivers who "cause distress" to neighbours or damage to property, even tyre marks on the road, will have their cars permanently confiscated on their first strike;

 

* Vehicles will also be permanently confiscated on a second hoon offence, no matter whether or not the driver causes any damage; and

 

* $1.6 million will be spent over four years on an "anti-hoon" police campaign that includes 24 additional CCTV cameras for hot spots.

 

Police Minister Liza Harvey said confiscated vehicles would be auctioned and unroadworthy vehicles destroyed.

 

"It's unfortunate that we've come to this point," Ms Harvey told The Sunday Times.

 

"But I've listened to hundreds of people right across WA. People in Carnarvon and Kalgoorlie are as fed up with hoons as people in suburban High Wycombe and Forrestfield.

 

"We want this to be a deterrent to people and we want people to think again. If we take away the tool that's being used to cause the damage, we're halfway there."

 

The announcement of tough new penalties comes as figures reveal the true extent of dangerous driving on WA roads.

 

Police received more than 7200 complaints about "anti-social" road behaviour, including burn-outs, excessive speed and street racing, in 2012.

 

About 2000 complaints were made about unlicensed trail bikes on WA roads.

 

"We're talking about 138 complaints to police a week that is a lot of people doing the wrong thing on our roads," Ms Harvey said.

 

"We've seen the tragic circumstances that can occur when people speed on local roads. Children have been killed, innocent bystanders have been killed and people have had vehicles plough into their homes.

 

"We need it to end."

 

Hoon legislation was introduced by the previous Labor Government in 2004 to target organised street racing and reckless driving. In 2010, amendments were made by former police minister Rob Johnson, ordering police to impound vehicles for 28 days for a first offence, three months for a second offence and possibly permanent confiscate them for a third.

 

The latest penalties, if introduced, will give police the power to seize a vehicle on the spot, and apply to the courts to have it confiscated permanently on the first offence.

 

Pas and Kevin Fitzgerald, who have lived in High Wycombe for 24 years, said they hoped tougher penalties would bring an end to hooning in their neighbourhood.

 

"We live opposite Norling Rd and they use that as a launching place," Ms Fitzgerald said.

 

"We have had someone end up in a tree out the front of our place. And it's such a shame because it used to be such a beautiful place to live."

 

Mr Fitzgerald said: "These people don't seem to have any concern about their vehicle, their tyres or people's lives."

LABOR REACTION

Labor Leader Mark McGowan today responded to the announcement, saying that the Liberals had waited until the eve of the State election to finally take an interest in the issue.

“Its last attempt at laws to combat hoons was a complete embarrassment and contained loopholes that resulted in innocent members of the public being punished," he said.

“Western Australians will remember the injustice caused to a Perth doctor, who had his yellow Lamborghini seized despite the fact a mechanic was driving the vehicle when hoon offences were committed.

“The Barnett Government was left red-faced and forced to address its half-baked laws.

“The so-called ‘tough’ laws resulted in few people being charged with hoon offences, a clear sign that the broken promise to deliver 500 additional police officers allowed hoons to escape punishment.

“Offenders can’t be charged if there are not enough police to catch them, and the Barnett Government’s broken police promise was one of its biggest failures in four and-a-half years in Government.”

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So you can suffer a potentailly 50k+ fine for doing something wrong but if you drink drive you cop up just over 1k and get your liscence back and keep your car... right

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I really dont get this crushing of cars scheme.

 

A car is someone's intellectual property. You cant just cant go take it and crush it, 2 wrongs dont make a right as they say. Crushing a car can lead to depression due to its sentimental value, financial hardship (especially if its a loaned car) and it doesnt teach anyone a lesson.

 

If they for example, they black list the offenders cars VIN so it cannot be registered in that state that will make sense. You pay registration and agree to certain rules to use their roads, if you misuse the the roads and break the rules and you will get punished it a civil way.

 

Thats just my idea, I really hope crushing cars is a last resort (even after jail time) when it comes to punishing for a traffic offense.

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Its just a desperate government grandstanding to win votes from geriatrics

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problem is it will work... win votes that is

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doubt it will ever happen.

 

its just a last minute grab for votes, even if he does get elected itll be an empty promise. shit even most of the sheepish public commenting on perthnow agree that its over the top

 

http://m.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/new-first-strike-law-to-seize-hoons-cars/story-e6frg13u-1226579478028?utm_source=Perth+Now&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=breaking+news&utm_content=Breaking+News

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Shit its better than Vic, the cops here just start shooting at your car..

haha :lol:

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A car is someone's intellectual property.

 

Wut?

 

I think he's getting at a car is someones personal property, I guess it's like someone leveling your house if you cause a noise disturbance in the neighborhood.

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um..... are they going to put out an iphone app to report this as well? lol.... i can see it now "keep our streets safe dob in anyone you see you think might be speeding or hooning"

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A car is someone's intellectual property.

 

Wut?

Sorry, posting early in the morning is never a good idea. Remove the intellectual ;).

 

But what Im getting at is its basically communism at its finest, there I said it.

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The biggest problem is they don't address the problem at the root. That is driver education. Not this is how you operate a car within the law.

 

See Australian culture is boganism, from the Bathurst days to dad doing a skid. A burn out or winning a drag was a right of passage. Hell we had all kinds of nats celebrating this kind of behaviour.

 

Now I'm not saying it's wrong, but if they want to change this culture, they need to do the educating right from the start.

 

The government however knows if they do this, revenue will go down as well as the death toll, but how can they make money and introduce bogas laws in order to "save your life?"

 

 

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never stop, head for the nullabor and clock your speedo

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There has been a precedent set in sa that could see a way of fighting such laws.

 

there was a thread on here about it a little while back.

 

Would be interesting to see this tested in other states.

 

Oh and king troll, your an absolute fvcking idiot if you really belive 'it'll never happen'. How many of these fvcked up laws have to come into place before people like you will wake up to themselves and realise these bullshit laws can and do get passed on a regular basis.

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The Jews never thought the nazi's would come through their town trying to wipe them all out as well

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Tbh I don't think this would come in, but I can see it being used to bring in something that's less severe add an alternative.

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I really dont get this crushing of cars scheme.

 

A car is someone's intellectual property. You cant just cant go take it and crush it, 2 wrongs dont make a right as they say. Crushing a car can lead to depression due to its sentimental value, financial hardship (especially if its a loaned car) and it doesnt teach anyone a lesson.

 

If they for example, they black list the offenders cars VIN so it cannot be registered in that state that will make sense. You pay registration and agree to certain rules to use their roads, if you misuse the the roads and break the rules and you will get punished it a civil way.

 

Thats just my idea, I really hope crushing cars is a last resort (even after jail time) when it comes to punishing for a traffic offense.

 

Uh the 'intellectual property' of a car is owned by the manufacturer. you own the car, and theres plenty of other objects that can be confiscated if used incorrectly or against the law (firearms, animals, computers to name a few).

 

Its just a desperate government grandstanding to win votes from geriatrics

 

This is the only correct answer. Look at those frumpy-ass bitches up in that photo. the last time they had a root was probably when steam engines were the latest technology.

 

 

 

There is no way they could get a car confiscated purely on the grounds of causing distress

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A car is someone's intellectual property.
Wut?
Sorry, posting early in the morning is never a good idea. Remove the intellectual ;). But what Im getting at is its basically communism at its finest, there I said it.

 

How is any of this even vaguely related to Communism?

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this countries road rules are a joke now lmao...

 

imagine an old guy is speeding but doesn realise and get his old dhaihatsu charade or starlet crushed LOL

 

we going to the shitter

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Easy way to get votes from old people, that's all there is to it.

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the real problem isn't even the ridiculous punishments its the ridiculously broad "hoon" law, that means anything from a moron in a commodore doing doughnuts in the middle of a busy intersection right down to an l-plater accidentally chirping first attempting a hill start can all be put under the hoon law and result in this crazy punishment, its one of the most open, broad laws out and we all know the cops target nicely modified cars with exhausts loud enough to fit into the hoon law more then the shitbombs that are one pot hole away from falling apart "drifting" the school zone at 3pm.

 

long story short this wont lead to the real "hoons" facing any punishment that actually effects them

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l-plater accidentally chirping first attempting a hill start

 

Did that. Also left the hand brake on and did a fairly big skid too without realising.

 

Lucky that was before these gestapo rules came along.

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And just because I can't help myself...

 

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In all seriousness though, the absurdity of this law smacks of the "Consorting" laws NSW passed not so long ago. They're both ridiculous blanket laws open to huge misuse, implemented to provide the authorities with massive power in situations where legally they have little or nothing to actually punish people for. As intense_7 pointed out, DUI is a criminal offense, but the punishment for being noisy or doing a burnout in a carpark could potentially be 100x greater. Pure instanity.

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Pretty sure standing in the middle of the road is a breach of road rules

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Pretty sure standing in the middle of the road is a breach of road rules

 

It looks like they're actually on a zebra crossing, so legal. Bastards need to live a little.

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If they are standing on a zebra crossing then where was the photographer standing?

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